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Author Topic:   The Big Bang and the visible past.
Huntard
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Message 6 of 89 (582078)
09-19-2010 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Yrreg
09-19-2010 5:46 PM


Re: A purely scientific background is not the whole picture of existence.
Hello Yrreg, and welcome to EvC!
Yrreg writes:
Now that mathematics took into account what we might call things in the observable (by man's senses) universe, and time and space, to go all the way back to a point which they call the singularity.
Yes.
At this point scientists who are atheists have censored their intelligence to not go further.
No. They can't got further, that's what "singularity" means.
So, if you are an atheist you should not go further with your intelligence.
Even if you're not an atheist, you can't go further.

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Huntard
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Message 20 of 89 (582553)
09-22-2010 3:06 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Yrreg
09-21-2010 6:25 PM


Re: Okay, now that you have situated yourself inside a box, you don't think...
Yrreg writes:
Okay, now that you have situated yourself inside a box, you don't think you can employ your mind to go outside the box to think on what is outside the box?
We don't even know if there is such a thing as "outside the box".
Is that an intelligent attitude in the use of your mind or in the treatment of your mind?
Yes. We could speculate about if there is an outside, and if there is, what that is like, but without a way of showing any of that to be actually the case, it's pretty useless to do so.
Of course you are entitled as a living thing endowed with free choice to use your mind to describe anything that might if at all exist outside the box as crap.
Again, we don't even know if there is such a thing as "outside the box". It's all pure speculation, and should be treated as such, not as some grand insight into anything at all.
And go way feeling so intelligent.
Which is not any constructive use of your mind but an abuse.
It's not constructive to just speculate, investigate, on the other hand...
And anyone with an open mind will see you as not thinking intelligently at all.
I've often found people that claim to have an open mind to believe in all sorts of woowoo, while people with actual open minds, didn't.

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Huntard
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Message 25 of 89 (582579)
09-22-2010 8:08 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by Buzsaw
09-22-2010 7:52 AM


Re: Is that attitude intelligent, not to go further than the big bang?
As should the purple pooping hippo with three horns on its head model. If you'll help me with that one, I'll help you with yours. Ok?

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Huntard
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Message 38 of 89 (582641)
09-22-2010 12:51 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Buzsaw
09-22-2010 11:31 AM


Re: Hunter's Randed Yada
you missed the point, didn't you? Your woowoo "model" is just as good as any woowoo "model", I just proposed another one, that is just as scientific as yours.
Go on, prove me wrong, show the math, and I'll show you mine.

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Huntard
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Message 49 of 89 (583010)
09-24-2010 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by Buzsaw
09-24-2010 9:13 AM


Re: Redefining Definition
Buzsaw writes:
Dictionary definitions need not be applied to anything Biblical.
Ok, so when it says that Adam, for example, lived to be 900 years (or something of that nature), it doesn't mean the actual 900 years, that we mean when we speak of 900 years, it could be 80 years, since the dictionary definition of year does not aply. Good to know.
Wait... This means I can make the bible say literally anything I want! Neat!

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