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Warthog
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Message 13 of 81 (651255)
02-06-2012 3:56 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Dr Adequate
02-06-2012 1:38 AM


Keeping fanatics in their boxes
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'm willing to state that those threats of genocide against all Jews worldwide, and the threats to annihilate the state of Israel, deserve condemnation.
Are you?
Yes, certainly. What I'm not going to do is worry about these threats when uttered by someone who might as well be threatening to grow silver wings and fly to the moon. At the very worst they are straws that show which way the wind blows.
I agree - we have to keep threats like these in perspective. While the threats may sound the same, the source is the thing to keep in mind. I am no more worried about this than I would be about the neonazis. These groups are trying to get attention for their own beliefs and common way to do that is to scare people. It's great marketing and certain to help spread their name. Works for the fashion industry (you're old/fat/ugly) just as well as for kids marketing (either 'buy this or your kids won't love you' or 'if you don't have/like this, your friends won't like you').
If you can frighten enough bunnies, you can start the spread of panic and your job is done.
Of course, the other side to this is genuinely dangerous groups. The rise of Hitler was mentioned and is an excellent example. Al Quaeda is a more modern one. The real trick is that you can never be sure of the assessment until hindsight kicks in. The crazies are only dangerous when they're not really crazies. To be a real threat, a group has to be organised and focused. Hamas is a far greater threat to Israel than our blogger.
Of course, the impulse is to be wary of any and all threats but this doomed to failure. All that results is that you spend your time jumping at shadows, thus admitting defeat by default.

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Warthog
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Message 54 of 81 (651630)
02-08-2012 4:23 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Artemis Entreri
02-08-2012 12:38 PM


Re: LessonS learned?
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operation AJAX, yeah i forgot.
though the Shah was already the Shah, I think we used the CIA and MI6 to cause a coup to get rid of the PM and put a general in his place.
totally forgot.
Yeah, the overthrow of a democratic government that wasn't doing exactly what it was told, followed by the installation of a brutal puppet dictator to gain strategic influence in the area. Minor detail.
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And as sated earlier the bases and troops in Afghanistan and Iraq don’t have much to do with Iran.
The US elevated and supported another brutal dictator (this time in Iraq) and encouraged a really nasty war with Iran. Another minor detail.
Also the fact that the US has a history of attacking countries that don't do what they want (including Iran). Another minor detail.
Why indeed should Iran feel threatened?

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Warthog
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Message 64 of 81 (651750)
02-09-2012 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by Artemis Entreri
02-09-2012 1:24 PM


Re: LessonS learned?
quote:
so is all that a good justification for killing the jews?
Way to misrepresent.
It says nothing about Israel or Jews.
What it does is to illustrate that Muslim does not equal bloodthirsty villain and American foreign policy does not equal pure as the driven snow justice.
It also suggests that you are prepared to ignore historical and political factors that don't support your little worldview.

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