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ooh-child
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Message 9 of 264 (661861)
05-10-2012 6:10 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Dr Jack
05-10-2012 6:02 PM


He wasn't exactly a child - this happened a few months shy of his HS graduation.
And the character question for me involving this story is this: one of his cohorts, knowing how strict the school was regarding discipline, totally expected Mitt to get a punishment. But no one in the school administration admonished Mittens over this assault. Why? His daddy George was reportedly very involved with this prep school. Did his family connections get him a pass?
His character seems to lead him to believe he's above answering for his own actions.

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Message 20 of 264 (661873)
05-10-2012 6:29 PM
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05-10-2012 6:18 PM


Typically graduation age is closer to 18 years old - I graduated one month shy of my 18th.
Mormon youths like Romney are expected to go on their missionary trip at around that age. Two years of preaching in another country, on their own; sounds pretty adult to me.

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Message 27 of 264 (661884)
05-10-2012 6:54 PM
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05-10-2012 6:40 PM


Of course people can change! I'm not the same as I was at 17, although I was living on my own, going to HS, & managing my financial affairs. So I kinda expect Mitt to be around the same level at that age.
But as I said, this story is more of a tell about Mitt's sense of entitlement: 'Sure I can assault a weirdo kid in school - it's just horseplay. I can't have undocumented workers caring for my lawn - I'm running for President, for Pete's sake! It's our turn to move into the White House.' Stuff like that.
And this isn't the only presidential candidate to have his character/judgement questioned by his school attendance & behavior. Madrassas, anyone?

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Message 96 of 264 (662414)
05-15-2012 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by crashfrog
05-15-2012 8:08 AM


Re: denial is not admitting you are wrong
His most recent response to the incident also highlights his character.
Sure, some might excuse this as a 40+ year old youthful transgression. But for him to laugh & chuckle about it as he 'apologizes' for something he claims not to remember, shouldn't that give one pause?
I think a man of good character would respond better.

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Message 116 of 264 (662550)
05-16-2012 4:41 PM
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05-16-2012 4:36 PM


Re: So is the story goods news or bad for Romney
This particular event? Probably not. But, as some of us have been saying, it points to his woodeness, his sense of entitlement.
Even James Lipton is offering coaching advice to Mittens.
How To Act Human: James Lipton's Advice For Mitt Romney | Crooks and Liars
I think Romney should take it.

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Message 205 of 264 (663136)
05-21-2012 5:25 PM


Stictly hypothetical?
Is this discussion (getting into) hypothetical territory, or has anyone actually experienced having their hair cut against their will in high school?
Has anyone seen this kind of action at any point in school?
Apparently the kid who had this actually happen to him didn't report it to authorities, or if he did it was ignored. And, since he didn't tell anyone in his family about it, he obviously felt very privately about his reactions.
BTW - this did happen to a sophomore with whom I went to school. He went home & killed himself. No one was charged with anything.

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ooh-child
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Message 211 of 264 (663146)
05-21-2012 5:59 PM
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05-21-2012 5:43 PM


Re: Stictly hypothetical?
Actually, it was done 'in good fun' - not in a mean spirited way at all. It was a standard hazing ritual for new varsity football players. The suicide even knew it was coming, & did all he could to avoid the gang sent to haze him.
I sometimes wonder if those boys ever felt any remorse.

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Message 214 of 264 (663152)
05-21-2012 7:10 PM
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05-21-2012 6:57 PM


Re: Stictly hypothetical?
It was definitely standard procedure, that's why he avoided the confrontation as best he could for several weeks. And yes, it was the hair. This was the time of Barry Gibb hair & he was quite proud of his BG 'do. His note said he couldn't face being bald, even for the varsity squad. (A big deal at our school.)
Edited by ooh-child, : changed verb

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Message 217 of 264 (663156)
05-21-2012 7:22 PM
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05-21-2012 7:18 PM


Re: Stictly hypothetical?
Yep, who could imagine vanity, pride, and a not-yet-baked 16 year old brain could induce a suicide?

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Message 220 of 264 (663161)
05-21-2012 9:33 PM
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05-21-2012 8:30 PM


Re: Ehhh, not really...
Ahh Rahvin, now I see -
You & Oni are in on his joke together. Yesss...

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Message 237 of 264 (665091)
06-07-2012 6:39 PM
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06-07-2012 4:18 PM


Re: Romney the criminal police impersonator?
Romney, a product of his up bringing, is hopelessly out of touch with the way the world works for average folks.
You hear it in the way he talks (aircraft? chambermaid? 'maaavelous'?), you see it in his actions (it never occurs to him that he could be held accountable), you read about his wealthy hobbies (dressage?).
He's incapable of connecting with the regulars & riff-raff of everyday life.
Very off-putting, for my tastes.

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