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subbie
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Message 50 of 264 (661935)
05-10-2012 11:47 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Coyote
05-10-2012 11:31 PM


What do you think about the actual topic of this thread?
I was going to ask if you had anything to say about what Romney did, or if you were here just to toss in a tu quoque, but I noticed you did say this:
Schoolyard bullying in those days was good for a trip to the principal's office, and maybe detention for a few afternoons.
Does this mean that you simply brush Romney leading a group in an assault with a potentially deadly weapon, an action he won't admit he did or genuinely apologize for, as "boys will be boys?"

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We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
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Message 60 of 264 (661959)
05-11-2012 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by Coyote
05-11-2012 12:03 AM


Re: What do you think about the actual topic of this thread?
So when asked if you want to address the actual topic of this thread, you pile red herrings on top of your tu quoque. I guess that answers my question.
I think the outrage that is being expressed in this thread is related more to the fact that Romney is now the presidential candidate on the other side than the actual merits of what he did 50 years ago.
It isn't, but we all know that reality never colors your political thinking anyway, do don't let that stop you now.
But I guess you have to excuse the foibles of your side while pointing out the foibles of the other side, no matter how ancient, eh?
Either that or we don't think something like a little drug use is a foible. But again, that would be reality interfering with your fantasy life.
Meanwhile, all of these side issues are being brought up to avoid the main issue...
Oh, you mean like you trotting out Obama's drug use to try to divert attention from a felonious assault by Romney, for which he was not punished in the least amount?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 61 of 264 (661960)
05-11-2012 10:12 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by RAZD
05-11-2012 7:45 AM


Re: denial is not admitting you are wrong
Curiously, you pointed out that Obama did this in his book, but have not shown that Romney has even begun to discuss this with the seriousness that it should require, especially today when bullying is beginning to see much long needed attention.
That's because he's not here to defend Romney. He's here to try to divert attention from Romney.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 64 of 264 (661974)
05-11-2012 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Coyote
05-11-2012 11:51 AM


Re: False equivalence
They need to decriminalize or legalize it.
But the anti-drug war is a big business now, so don't look for that any time soon.
And yet here you are, trying to distract us from conduct by Romney that no reasonable person would find defensible with conduct by Obama that you yourself think should be decriminalized.
Wow, the cognitive dissonance is strong in this one.
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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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subbie
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Message 70 of 264 (662069)
05-11-2012 11:43 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Blue Jay
05-11-2012 11:13 PM


Scissors as a deadly weapon
Honestly, tacking on "with a deadly weapon" kind of comes off as an attempt at sensationalism. What he did was bad enough already: there's no need to try to make it sound like attempted murder or something.
Perhaps.
But at the same time, I guarantee you that there are prosecutors who would not hesitate to file just that kind of charge in exactly that situation (not against someone with Mittens's kind of money, of course). I've seen prosecutors try to enhance a charge for use of a deadly weapon when the "weapon" was a roll of duct tape. And, if the history of the assailant includes threats of violence against the victim before the scissors incident, I might even be inclined to think that a felony charge would be warranted. We have heard that Mittens engaged in some kind of harassing behavior before the scissors incident.
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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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