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NoNukes
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Message 9 of 56 (665891)
06-19-2012 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Trixie
06-19-2012 9:41 AM


I finally realised the futility when I was informed that the Earth is an isolated system, the universe is an open system and that energy from the sun cannot reach the surface of Earth because of the atmosphere blocking it and that no planets with an atmosphere can ever receive any energy from the sun.
I believe laughter, rather frustration is the best response. Take comfort in the fact that the person you are talking to won't be able to convince most people that water is wet, let alone that the universe was created in 6 days.
I don't believe that a person who says this stuff is merely ignorant. Their ignorance is willful, and reflects a belief that any fact, no matter how obvious, can and will be rejected if that fact stands in the way of an inviolate belief.
If the person knew better, perhaps they would give a slightly more sophisticated excuse, but it should be perfectly clear that you cannot convince someone that the sun warms the earth, that you won't succeed in convincing them of anything else.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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Message 12 of 56 (665897)
06-19-2012 1:51 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Percy
06-19-2012 11:11 AM


I guess if energy from the sun can't reach the Earth's surface then "solar energy" must just be a misnomer.
Did anyone else ever burn ants using sunlight focused through a magnifying glass? I wonder how that works, and why you cannot do the same thing at night?

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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NoNukes
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Message 13 of 56 (665898)
06-19-2012 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Trixie
06-19-2012 9:41 AM


I've been threatened with a ban if I repeat the "lie" that energy from the sun reaches the surface of Earth.
Surely there must be some stuff on AIG or CMI's web page that acknowledges the sun. I'd be sorely tempted to try posting some of that stuff.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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NoNukes
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Message 38 of 56 (666156)
06-22-2012 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Trixie
06-20-2012 10:01 AM


Re: The latest howler
Did you know that hydrogen can be called water cos water contains hydrogen so they're the same thing and all the elements can be formed using water? So when God moved on the face of the water, he was really moving on the face of the hydrogen cloud
Well, the first half of this seems to be an attempt at an allegorical reading of Genesis to make it fit with what they understand regarding the BBT. I think I could read this stuff without laughing out loud...
apparently and if repeated big bangs happen the universe (which isn't an isolated system) will consist of nothing but photons which proves that God made light.
... on the other hand, there seems little excuse for reading either the Bible or cosmology in quite the way done above. I think the idea that sun light does not reach the earth stuff is much funnier though.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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NoNukes
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Message 45 of 56 (666204)
06-24-2012 12:32 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by jar
06-23-2012 12:28 PM


Re: The latest howler
Well, they aren't bothered by cave paintings dating from 35,000 years before the earth even existed.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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