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Rahvin
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Message 15 of 56 (665902)
06-19-2012 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Trixie
06-19-2012 9:41 AM


I have seen an awful lot of wrong in my life, but not since YouTube user VenomFangX have I seen wrong on that scale.
You're faced with terminal stupidity (a combination of shocking ignorance, absolute confidence, and the determination that anyone who disagrees is a tool of the devil and therefore all argument is an attempt at damnation). I'm not sure that level of wrong can be fixed.
I mean...proving "energy from the Sun reaches the surface of the Earth" is as easy as going outside on a sunny day and noticing that the sunlight feels warm. Even without consideration of solar power or photosynthesis or any of the myriad other obvious observations, surely the simplest proof is just noticing that here, on the surface of the Earth, sunlight is warm. Or, hell, that it's bright. The mere fact that the Sun causes daylight is proof positive.
Your opponents are not thinking. They cannot possibly be thinking. They have instead identified you as belonging to the Other Team. Since Their Team is Right, the Other Team is Wrong. They cannot be engaging in intellectual debate with you - their perspective on "debate" is a clash of ideologies, not facts and evidence and explanatory theories. They've dissociated the conversation from reality, and therefore my advice for your own sanity would be to disengage from them.
Alternatively, continue to share with us their most outrageously wrong statements so we can all laugh and be rendered speachless by demonstrations of inconceivable idiocy. I'd find that entertaining.

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.
- Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of
variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the
outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.

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