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Tempe 12ft Chicken Member (Idle past 365 days) Posts: 438 From: Tempe, Az. Joined:
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Faith writes: Pat Robertson also thinks Roman Catholicism is Christian. So much for Pat Robertson. Definitions of Christian, from Merriam-Webster:1. The religion derived from Jesus Christ, based on the Bible as sacred scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies 2. Conformity to the Christian religion 3. The practice of Christianity Well, it seems to me that the Catholic Church, a religion derived from Jesus Christ, according to doctrine, fits directly into the definition of Christianity. I mean, unless you would like to simply create a new definition of the word? I find it hislarious how much each different sect of Christianity hates one another...you would totally think that at least one of these groups had heard that whole "Love one another" thing, since it was supposedly Christ who said it... Edited by Tempe 12ft Chicken, : No reason given.The theory of evolution by cumulative natural selection is the only theory we know of that is in principle capable of explaining the existence of organized complexity. -Richard Dawkins Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. -Issac Asimov If you removed all the arteries, veins, & capillaries from a person’s body, and tied them end-to-endthe person will die. -Neil Degrasse Tyson What would Buddha do? Nothing! What does the Buddhist terrorist do? Goes into the middle of the street, takes the gas, *pfft*, Self-Barbecue. The Christian and the Muslim on either side are yelling, "What the Fuck are you doing?" The Buddhist says, "Making you deal with your shit. -Robin Williams-
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Tempe 12ft Chicken Member (Idle past 365 days) Posts: 438 From: Tempe, Az. Joined:
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Faith writes: So you can have Pat over for coffee and congratulate him for his betrayal of the Protestant Reformation in considering Rome who murdered millions of Bible believers down the centuries as "Christian" as so many history-challenged "Protestants" are doing these days. But the Reformers all agreed that Catholicism was Antichrist, not Christian in the slightest but the opposite. Sad how that has been obscured and buried these days. Not that there aren't some individual Catholics who may be Christian -- MAYBE, it's hard inside that institution where the rules are mostly man-made, and when Catholics DO begin to understand the gospel and some of the history of their murdering "Church" they usually exit speedily. I think that you are holding a little bit of a grudge that is unwarranted. I am quite aware of the history, and quite a bloody history at that, of the Catholic Church as an ex-Catholic. Yet, there is a question I would ask of you. Why are you holding the church responsible for the sins that were done by those in the church hundreds of years ago? If you are willing to hold the current incarnation of the Catholic Church responsible for those past transgressions, then what transgressions of your ancestors should you be held responsible for? As a protestant, there was the reformation and murder of Catholics, so Catholics should hold a grudge against you. Do you live in the US? Well, then you are directly responsible for slavery and Japanese internment. See how absolutely ridiculous the idea of holding current incarnations of institutions responsible for past sins can be? We all become guilty of some crime or another at that point. You are not blameless in this mindset. However, if we look at the church as it is now, not with conspiracy theory goggles on, we see a church who claims its teachings come from Christ...AKA Christian...AKA your brothers and sisters in Christ.The theory of evolution by cumulative natural selection is the only theory we know of that is in principle capable of explaining the existence of organized complexity. -Richard Dawkins Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. -Issac Asimov If you removed all the arteries, veins, & capillaries from a person’s body, and tied them end-to-endthe person will die. -Neil Degrasse Tyson What would Buddha do? Nothing! What does the Buddhist terrorist do? Goes into the middle of the street, takes the gas, *pfft*, Self-Barbecue. The Christian and the Muslim on either side are yelling, "What the Fuck are you doing?" The Buddhist says, "Making you deal with your shit. -Robin Williams-
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Tempe 12ft Chicken Member (Idle past 365 days) Posts: 438 From: Tempe, Az. Joined:
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I would rather they waste all the money they collect on objects I can actually see, rather than have all of the money be donated and yet the church receives no repairs, there is no finery, and the pastor is driving a really nice sportscar....seems fishy to me.
ABE-Although, personally, I feel that church services should be performed in run down buildings with all of the money collected going to the poor and the less fortunate...you know, the way Jesus stated it should be. But, hey, if the preacher needs an Escalade, please give generously! Edited by Tempe 12ft Chicken, : No reason given.The theory of evolution by cumulative natural selection is the only theory we know of that is in principle capable of explaining the existence of organized complexity. -Richard Dawkins Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. -Issac Asimov If you removed all the arteries, veins, & capillaries from a person’s body, and tied them end-to-endthe person will die. -Neil Degrasse Tyson What would Buddha do? Nothing! What does the Buddhist terrorist do? Goes into the middle of the street, takes the gas, *pfft*, Self-Barbecue. The Christian and the Muslim on either side are yelling, "What the Fuck are you doing?" The Buddhist says, "Making you deal with your shit. -Robin Williams-
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Tempe 12ft Chicken Member (Idle past 365 days) Posts: 438 From: Tempe, Az. Joined:
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Faith writes: Again, this is about the INSTITUTION, the Vatican, the Papacy, not Catholics themselves. And again, the Papacy, the Vatican doctrine states that Catholicism began with Peter as the first Pope following the traditions set forth by Christ...AKA=Christian. Now, you may want to claim otherwise, but the fact of the matter is that Christian is a word that means a person or group that believes in the divinity of Christ and his teachings...Catholics fall into that, so do protestants, so do Mormons...you are all Christians, unless you want to change definitions. Oh, so because something is more political (During a religion controlled politics era) than religious it gets a bypass? No, it does not.Protestants choosing to control moral behavior by punishing individuals for dancing, drinking and being entertained gets a bypass? Why? And you are correct that Calvin executed Servetus, but they were actually executing theological dissidents in Germany and I am pretty sure that means more than one. Then, we have the Huguenot soldiers, who hunted priests. According to the website I am reading (which you probably will claim is not factual because it is about atheism), "one captain is reported to have worn a necklace of priests' ears." Then we have the Church of England killing both Protestants and Catholics for dissenting views. In other words, stop acting like your group was the only one marginalized by another. Should I hold the city of Rome as responsible for what occured to the early Christians (part of Catholicism) in the Colliseum? No, because that would be pointless, stupid, and ignorant. Give up on the blame game because we all know the Catholic Churches sins, they were done right out in the open, for all the World to see. I am sure I can find many more examples of executions done by the Protestants, let me know if you would like them. Also, why would the Catholic Church, under Pope John Paul II, apologize for the Inquisitions if there were not true guilt involved. At least according to Catholic faith, it is pointless to apologize for something that you do not feel guilty for because you are not penitent. Seems like maybe you are simply building up this giant Catholic conspiracy in your own head. I would love to hear where you got this official church doctrine from, especially considering I never once heard it in twenty years in the church and as a youth leader for nine years. I can actually guarantee you that the Catholic Church is not currently following the rules of the Inquisition about putting Protestants to death, so how is it still adhered to? By telling individuals that Protestantism is wrong? So what? They are allowed their opinion of your church, just like you can believe they are wrong. How powerful is the curse of the Catholic Church against Protestants, when you do not even believe they have the right view of God? Please post a link to this official Catholic Doctrine that states that the Inquisition is currently still happening...Otherwise, retract this ridiculous statement. Reformation 101 - The Protestant Reformation in Europe
Edited by Tempe 12ft Chicken, : No reason given. Edited by AdminModulous, : text hiddenThe theory of evolution by cumulative natural selection is the only theory we know of that is in principle capable of explaining the existence of organized complexity. -Richard Dawkins Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. -Issac Asimov If you removed all the arteries, veins, & capillaries from a person’s body, and tied them end-to-endthe person will die. -Neil Degrasse Tyson What would Buddha do? Nothing! What does the Buddhist terrorist do? Goes into the middle of the street, takes the gas, *pfft*, Self-Barbecue. The Christian and the Muslim on either side are yelling, "What the Fuck are you doing?" The Buddhist says, "Making you deal with your shit. -Robin Williams-
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Tempe 12ft Chicken Member (Idle past 365 days) Posts: 438 From: Tempe, Az. Joined:
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Faith writes: I'm happy to go with Websters 1828 Dictionary which is online and far more trustworthy than newer dictionaries. It doesn't make the mistake of putting Rome under "Christian." Curse you for making me post about this one more time!!! Lol... 1. A believer in the religion of Christ. 2. A professor of his belief in the religion of Christ. Catholicism would fall under both of these definitions, and I am pretty sure the other two in your chosen dictionary. Even though you tried to to change things by going back 184 years to get the result you wanted, you have still failed. Catholics believe in Christ and his teachings, that is all that is necesary to be Christian. Now, listen to the Mods and leave it alone, unless you would like to sstart a thread on it and I would gladly participate. Edited by AdminModulous, : off topic hiddenThe theory of evolution by cumulative natural selection is the only theory we know of that is in principle capable of explaining the existence of organized complexity. -Richard Dawkins Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. -Issac Asimov If you removed all the arteries, veins, & capillaries from a person’s body, and tied them end-to-endthe person will die. -Neil Degrasse Tyson What would Buddha do? Nothing! What does the Buddhist terrorist do? Goes into the middle of the street, takes the gas, *pfft*, Self-Barbecue. The Christian and the Muslim on either side are yelling, "What the Fuck are you doing?" The Buddhist says, "Making you deal with your shit. -Robin Williams-
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