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Author Topic:   Kof2hu's 22 species corresponding to Genesis thread
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Message 43 of 95 (693926)
03-20-2013 9:56 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by kofh2u
03-20-2013 9:21 PM


Science?
That IS the way Science actually works, right?
Uh, no.
Science does not rely on magic, superstition, wishful thinking, old wives tales, folklore, what the stars foretell and what the neighbors think, omens, public opinion, astromancy, spells, Ouija boards, anecdotes, Da Vinci codes, tarot cards, sorcery, seances, sore bunions, black cats, divine revelation, table tipping, witch doctors, crystals and crystal balls, numerology, divination, faith healing, miracles, palm reading, the unguessable verdict of history, magic tea leaves, new age mumbo-jumbo, hoodoo, voodoo or any of that other weird stuff.
Science relies on evidence and the scientific method.
You should try it sometime!

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

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Message 60 of 95 (694034)
03-21-2013 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by kofh2u
03-21-2013 12:53 PM


Re: Twenty two... not so much
I am saying my Hypothesis says there is a correspondence between the two lists.
Then, I am producing other evidence that seems to support that hypothesis.
That happens to be The Scientific Method.
But you are leaving out the most important part of the scientific method! What you are avoiding at all costs is testing your hypothesis against the evidence!
Much of this, and other, threads have focused on showing you where your hypothesis does not follow from the evidence, and how it is contradicted by the evidence.
If you were following the scientific method you would revise your hypothesis, or abandon it in favor of one that better accommodated the evidence.
Instead, you dig in your heels and twist, manipulate, and otherwise mutilate and spindle the evidence in a futile effort to make it fit.
That's not science; that's the exact opposite of science: religious apologetics.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

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Message 68 of 95 (694065)
03-21-2013 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by kofh2u
03-21-2013 2:45 PM


Three? races of man
This CORRESPONDS directly to the Three Racial Stock Theory of science.
I've told you several times that science does not agree with your claim of three races.
Why are you ignoring what science actually claims, all the while claiming to follow science?
Here's the reference to the Coon and Garn article titled On the Number of Races of Mankind again:
Just a moment...
You might try reading it this time, even though it refutes your claims. That would be what scientists would do, not just ignore it as you seem inclined to do.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

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Coyote
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Message 77 of 95 (694080)
03-21-2013 4:29 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by kofh2u
03-21-2013 3:44 PM


Re: Three? races of man
kofh:
This CORRESPONDS directly to the Three Racial Stock Theory of science.
coyote;
I've told you several times that science does not agree with your claim of three races.
And I have told YOU it does.
I have referenced a peer-reviewed paper from a scientific journal by two acknowledged experts in the field. (I have quite a number of books by those two experts on my office shelves from my graduate school days and from my subsequent study of human races.)
The idea of just three races pretty much died out over 100 years. Because so many traits are involved (both geographical and genetic), and because many of those traits are found with clinal distributions that do not co-vary with one another, many have come to question the concept of race altogether.
In spite of all of this you continue to make wild and unsubstantiated claims clearly contradicted by scientific evidence.
Unless you can come up with some evidence I can only conclude you're just blowing smoke.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

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