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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So we could just bring those troop home.
Then that removes one possible threat.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I think we should care about them, pity them, wish they did not suffer.
What does that have to do with the thread?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yes, if we had spent one tenth of what we have spent on our military and our continued invasions of other Nations on foreign aid the world might be a far better place.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Lost me there.
Yes, North Koreans live in North Korea. What does that have to do with the thread?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I certainly don't see that message but so what?
Fools often take time to learn and if that is the message someone takes they may someday learn they are wrong. That can be very painful. But the question to ask is "Is it wise to put yourself in a hazardous position when responding will almost certainly hurt you more than the other person?"Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Why do you think that the US will suffer more casualties than the N. Koreans in a war between the two countries? That might be relevant had I made such a claim, but fortunately I didn't. The US will likely have very few casualties at least initially. But the US also places a higher value on it's soldiers lives. Each US casualty caries a far higher cost than all the North Korean casualties combined in the US political arena. So again, is it wise to put yourself in a hazardous position when responding will almost certainly hurt you more than the other person?"Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Follow the money.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Halliburton is a big direct beneficiary but there are many, many more, all the South Korean and Japanese and Vietnamese and Australian and Chinese companies that don't have to pay to be the policeman.
The Greek and Chinese and Japanese and Korean merchant ships benefit from the US Navy maintaining the freedom of the seas.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You may find it twisted logic while I see it as honesty and reality.
There is of course no win or lose in this discussion but there would be in reality should the US actually invade North Korea.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You haven't been reading this thread have you?
quote: from Message 85. The average American places greater value on one American life than on the lives of all the North Koreans combined, but they place an even higher value on being able to watch WWE, having the latest cell phone and app. I wish I were making it up, but I am not.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Does it?
And does the average North Korean even enter into the equation?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But a casualty is not a casualty. A casualty has the value placed on it by a government.
The value may not even be consistent or constant. Is it time for Japan and Taiwan to assume responsibility for themselves? The issue is just how much pain and costs should the US assume?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Does it matter?
Do the folk in North Korea who may commit them to a war place any value on whether or not they have families and loved ones?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Different gov'ts certainly value life differently but a casualty is a casualty by any rational or moral standard. But as you admit all casualties do not carry the same value or cost.
I thought that the question was how do we avoid the destruction of Korea. Well no, that has never been the topic of this thread regardless of what you mean by "Korea".
What makes you think that the harm would be less if the US were to pull out? What makes you think I think that? The issue is "What is the least harm to the US?"
US withdrawal would most certainly lead to a war that would quickly spread. How much would that cost?
That would depend on whether we joined in the madness of it spreading. Is there some reason to think the result might not be the same as with Vietnam and China? Might the result be that in a decade we find that "Korea" (the unified peninsula) is a major trading partner? Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Of course I understand that the US has a trade and financial interest with South Korea, Taiwan and Japan, but is a financial interest sufficient justification for war or invading another country?
And of course the US values not just the lives of US citizens but even the enemy which is why the US uses drones and other forms of limited response instead of carpet bombing, but that is irrelevant to anything I have posted. The issue is "What value do the leaders of North Korea put on the lives of their citizens and of non North Koreans?" North Korea invading or more likely simply destroying South Korea would disrupt trade with South Korea certainly, but that is not a real threat to the continued existence of the US. North Korea has no real chance of invading Japan or Taiwan or of seriously threatening the continued existence of Japan or Taiwan so trying to drag them into this thread is simply a vacuous attempt to avoid what I have been saying.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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