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Author Topic:   North Korea there will be blood?
NoNukes
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Message 27 of 116 (695429)
04-05-2013 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by 1.61803
04-05-2013 9:54 AM


Re: Worry
I have a few friends from Korea with family there and there anxiety is palpable.
I have done work for a Korean hi-tech company that is located close to the DMZ. Visited them once. The engineers I talked to never seem to be bothered by any events in North Korea. If the South Koreans are worried, we should be too.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 29 of 116 (695432)
04-05-2013 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by dwise1
04-05-2013 5:55 AM


Re: How would others react?
But what about the nuclear factor? They are threatening a nuclear strike. Wouldn't we respond by giving Asia a night-light? Should we respond in that manner?
Depending on what the target was of N. Korea's strike, I think we'd have to ask the cold war question of whether we can actually protect South Korea by nuking N. Korea. Obviously if they obliterate South Korea, that question comes off the table.
What I don't see however, is any outcome of this activity that is good for North Korea.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 38 of 116 (695481)
04-05-2013 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by 1.61803
04-05-2013 10:42 AM


Re: How would others react?
I honestly feel that N. Korea is still living in 1953. The rest of the world has evolved and they are still in that cold war mind set. If N. Korea lauched a nuke I can see the current administration saying. Well it was just a little one, lets see what happens.*sarcasm*
I'm not sure the president could survive an impeachment if he made that choice. But the US response need not be nuclear as long as it is thorough and disproportionate.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 104 of 116 (696117)
04-12-2013 9:36 AM
Reply to: Message 103 by Dogmafood
04-12-2013 7:25 AM


Re: Sould the US have an NMP policy?
I am not really sure if you mean that the Koreans can afford to lose more people than the US can or just that they are willing to sacrifice more people or what. Do you mean that there are some people who are more important to the war effort than others?
He's saying that regardless of their importance, some people are more valued than others.
In terms of casualties, any rational assessment of harm caused by a conflict will conclude that 1 dead person = 1 dead person.
No matter how rational that equation seems, it is never the formula used in a conflict.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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