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Author Topic:   Can the standard "Young Earth Creationist" model be falsified by genetics alone?
jar
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Message 5 of 161 (696225)
04-13-2013 4:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by bluegenes
04-12-2013 1:23 PM


Re: The Y-chromosome falsification.
Not only does genetics falsify a young earth, it also falsifies the Biblical Flood myth, the Garden of Eden and the bullshit of the Super Genome.
Young Earth, Biblical Creationism and the Biblical Flood have all been totally refuted so many times by so many different areas of evidence that they deserve nothing more than laughter and derision.
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Message 13 of 161 (697019)
04-20-2013 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by jbozz21
04-20-2013 1:42 AM


Re: The Y-chromosome falsification.
When you say stuff like this it takes a lot of faith in you and the people that did these studies to actually believe what you are telling me.
Nonsense, it takes no faith at all.
My real question is why should I trust these studies to be accurate, correctly set up, truthful and unbiased?
You shouldn't. You should learn enough to examine the evidence yourself.
But the first step is to learn what the scientific method is.
Since is based on doubt and questioning. Results are published as well as methods and presented so that other scientists can test the process.
When it comes to the Biblical Flood though hundreds of thousands of similar tests have been performed over at least 150 years and every single one of those hundreds of thousands of tests in every different area has shown that the Biblical Flood never happened.

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Message 22 of 161 (697429)
04-25-2013 9:59 AM
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04-25-2013 1:19 AM


Re: The Y-chromosome falsification.
jbozz21 writes:
Like I said, I do not understand all of the science portrayed in the studies, and many people do not either.
So your argument is simply that you are too uneducated to understand the evidence and that there are lots of uneducated people so that's okay?
jbozz21 writes:
Unless there were multiple studies reproducing the same study done by some trusted and unbiased sources then I would not be inclined to accept this data.
But there are not just multiple studies that have shown that the Biblical Flood never happened and that the earth is old and that modern humans have been around since long before Adam, there are literally hundreds of thousands in the last 150 years or so.
jbozz21 writes:
I would venture to say that many other creationists, especially the uneducated in science or even genetics ones, would not be inclined to believe it either.
So back to the uneducated defense. Got it.
jbozz21 writes:
To say that these studies prove the bible false is a very Hasty Generalization.
That is about like saying that the Jungle Book or Alice in Wonderland are false.
Fiction and false are not synonymous.

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Message 57 of 161 (706286)
09-09-2013 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by bluegenes
09-09-2013 5:13 AM


Re: Lots of apes on the Ark?!
Actually, the YEC position makes more sense based on that if Noah, the sons and the wives were Chimps or Gorillas. Humans were just one of the other species on the ARK or a deformed and degenerate offspring of the Gorillas.
As I pointed out back in 2004 in Message 57
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I often hear that Humans are more intelligent than the Gorilla.
But one:
  • never seems in a hurry.
  • spends his day eating and playing with the kids.
  • has his women folk about him.
  • takes a nap every day.
  • never worries about what to wear.
  • never worries about budgets or taxes.
  • has never gone to war.
  • doesn't much care what the neighbors think.
  • is never late for work.
  • has never heard kids asking "What's for dinner"?
  • doesn't have to block out channels on the remote.
I have a feeling that just maybe, when they were handing out intellegence, the Gorillas and Humans flipped a coin.
We lost.

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Message 71 of 161 (707028)
09-20-2013 9:15 PM
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09-20-2013 9:03 PM


Re: DNA continuity
But wait, there's more.
For any of the Biblical Flood stories to be true you also need to find the same 4500 year ago genetic break in cows and coyotes and buffalo and wolves and sheep and goats and ravens and doves and lions and tigers and bears and ohmys and ...

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Message 128 of 161 (708614)
10-11-2013 12:23 PM
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10-11-2013 11:43 AM


Re: AND and heat and radiation
Heat was different before the flood. That is why fossils of rain drops are more common in the 4498 year old Triassic layers than the 4501 year old Permian layers.

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