Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9164 total)
8 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,919 Year: 4,176/9,624 Month: 1,047/974 Week: 6/368 Day: 6/11 Hour: 1/2


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Can the standard "Young Earth Creationist" model be falsified by genetics alone?
Tangle
Member
Posts: 9516
From: UK
Joined: 10-07-2011
Member Rating: 5.1


(5)
Message 29 of 161 (697779)
04-30-2013 2:29 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by jbozz21
04-20-2013 1:42 AM


Re: The Y-chromosome falsification.
jbozz21 writes:
My real question is why should I trust these studies to be accurate, correctly set up, truthful and unbiased?
There's a lot going on behind this question and there's several answers to it.
Firstly, although the studies have been used here to show that the biblical flood could not have happened when creationists say it did, the studies themselves were not done for that reason. The work was done simply to extend our knowledge in the normal scientific way. Scientists do not have any motive to deceive and they have a very high motivation not to. This is because anything they do can be and will be checked and reproduced by other scientists and mistakes and deceits are always found. If a scientist is found to be deliberately making up his findings he would have his research funding removed.
Secondly, because of their beliefs, creationists often feel that science is in a conspiracy to overturn them. In fact, there are millions of scientists in multiple disciplines of all beliefs and and very few, if any, would give a second thought to what you believe - there is no conspiracy - they're just doing a job.
Thirdly, the piece of evidence you are presented with here, is just one of many bits of science that contradicts your beliefs. If you stay here long enough, you'll find that pretty much all branches of the natural sciences prove beyond doubt that there was no recent flood and that the earth is very old, not young. To believe otherwise requires you to reject almost all modern science from genetics and biology, through physics, geology and archaeology.
But you only doubt science when it contradicts a personal belief; I assume you are not sceptical when its work in those same areas does not directly touch a nerve? Biology only makes sense because of the fact of evolution, geology only makes sense because the earth is old, most of physics is utterly impenetrable to most people but without it you wouldn't have what you're using to read this.
If you can accept all the science that underlies everything in our modern society from medicine to space travel, why do you suddenly reject it when it proves that a story in a book written several thousand years ago is shown to be just that, a story?

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

This message is a reply to:
 Message 9 by jbozz21, posted 04-20-2013 1:42 AM jbozz21 has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024