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jar
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Message 84 of 147 (702762)
07-11-2013 11:16 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by dronestar
07-11-2013 11:11 AM


Re: Non-Human Rights
Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I quoted.
Sorry but still just more rhetoric from you.

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jar
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Message 86 of 147 (702771)
07-11-2013 11:23 AM
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07-11-2013 11:20 AM


Re: Non-Human Rights
Not only should it be arbitrary, it is arbitrary.

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jar
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Message 95 of 147 (702784)
07-11-2013 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by dronestar
07-11-2013 11:41 AM


Re: Non-Human Rights
You might ask jar.
As a Native American and someone who was very active in the Civil Rights movement what is needed is not giving rights to blacks, women, property holders, Native Americans but rather talking rights away from some party in power.
I was fired and blackballed in my profession at the time and my boss had the right to do that. What was needed was not giving me rights but rather removal of my boss' right.
Up until 1924 my family were considered Native Americans. Then the term Indian was stricken as an option; folk were either white or colored. Fortunately for my family there was an exemption that we could claim and we were light enough to pass anyway.
But in both cases everything was arbitrary. Rights were the reality. My boss had the right to behave as he did and the Virginia Legislature had the right to say there were only two classification, white or colored.
What I wish were preferable is pretty much irrelevant when it comes to rights. It is the current majority within a given era, society, culture or state that decides what rights are proscribed and what rights are prescribed.

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Message 113 of 147 (702827)
07-11-2013 2:44 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by onifre
07-11-2013 12:52 PM


Re: Rights of Nature
There is an inherent right to being a living thing. But there isn't an innate right in living things.
I don't think there is any inherent right to being a living thing. You may be a living thing but that has nothing to do with rights, it is simply a description of what you happen to be.
Nut even if that were true, nature is not a living thing.

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Message 134 of 147 (703408)
07-20-2013 2:43 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by Phat
07-20-2013 2:28 PM


tool makers
No, we most certainly are not the only tool makers even here on Earth. The other great apes, many birds, sea otters and other critters also make and use tools.

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