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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Since the first woman was actually Pandora, I'd have to say no, we are not all related to Eve. {Non-topic snark hidden - Adminnemooseus} Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Hide snark.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.Richard P. Feynman If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Of course I don't believe in the myth. My next question to any creationists was' how do you account for the different races of humans on the planet?' Thank goodness. I feel as if my snarky first post has been vindicated. I knew you did not want your thread here. But to be fair to Moose, I'm sure if you had posted some of the discussion here, he would have had a better shot at getting you sorted.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.Richard P. Feynman If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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because, from a bible study perspective, the answer is "yup, that's what the bible says." You've argued enough with ICANT to know that things are not that simple. ICANT might well ask you which Adam it is that you think we are all descended from.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.Richard P. Feynman If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
while it's true that there seems to have been other people outside of eden, they're not especially relevant, because the only people who survive the flood are descendants of the people who came from eden. Exactly. That means that there is an Adam that none of us are descended from. At least according to one person anyway.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.Richard P. Feynman If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Do you even know what Social Darwinism is or? You might just as well be blaming Jesus for the Crusades.
You are just about on par with the least logical posters I've encountered here. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.Richard P. Feynman If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
" On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life. " And what exactly did Darwin have to say about Favoured Races in his book, Jaywill? Despite the fact that Darwin was likey just as much a racist as others in his time, Origin of Species says exactly nothing about the topic of Social Darwinism. Darwin may well have been a racist, but I doubt you can find any notion of that in his book. Just a bit of historical perspective. Two hundred years before Darwin every lived, did whites have any trouble finding a basis for enslaving Africans, or did it turn out that the Bible itself provided plenty of justification and examples? Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.Richard P. Feynman If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
The truth isn't in you Jaywill. I should have learned that from our last discussion.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.Richard P. Feynman If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I accept that maybe the title of his book was hype that the publishers desired in order to sell it. Publishers do that. I don't know if that was the case. It wasn't the case at all. The reality has been explained to you several times in this thread. It's also been pointed out to you that there is no racism or Social Darwinism in Origin of Species.
I do not accept that either the biological or social concepts of Darwin are innocent in the barbarism of genocide. Yes, and given your obvious lack of familiarity with Darwin's work, your opinion is not worth the paper it's printed on.
The Descent of Man had arguments in favour of, and opposed to, ranking the so-called races of man as distinct species And? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.Richard P. Feynman If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I cannot detect anywhere in Genesis or elsewhere where it speaks of Adam and the clock stops and the reader is lifted up into some philosophic mythical realm in which Adam as history is made fuzzy The fact that you 'cannot detect' something surely does not suggest that the something does not exist. You are talking about a Book that describes the placement of the sun and moon, and the populating of the entire world with life in the span of a few paragraphs. And even with that, the story, despite describing a continuity of genealogy, has obvious gaps. Where did Enoch or Cain find wives? How did the population of earth restore itself from eight people in time to build the pyramids which are nearly contemporaneous with the flood? Even a literal reading tells of Genesis tells us that the events occurring after Adam dies spanned thousands of years. Yet you would tell us that there is no fuzzy history involved. How much history is simply not described in the first two dozen verses of Exodus? I imagine your answer would be that you see nothing missing. I don't see how anyone can make anything out of what you say you find or don't find in your reading. You say you can find support for the doctrine of Original Sin in the Bible. But we see that you find that which you seek in what you read and you see nothing that contradicts what you seek to avoid.
I don't take seriously that Evolution thinking has never had any room for concepts of race superiority / inferiority. If correct, that would make 'Evolution thinking' rather than the Theory of Evolution, not unlike 'Biblical thinking'. And that kinda makes what you take seriously, rather unimportant. And in any event, we know for a fact that your opinion was not formed from any knowledge of what Darwin wrote in Origin of Species. You formed your opinion knowing nothing about what you rail against.
The flow of history from events in the life of Adam and his wife is rather seamless down to Abraham. Sure jaywill. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.Richard P. Feynman If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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