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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I think I'd better get out of this "discussion" since you aren't making any sense. You seem to have lost it completely.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Impression I got was that you are the one having so much trouble understanding, the situation is hopeless.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Here's a story in the Wall Street Journal giving the history of Meriam Ibrahim's imprisonment and partial escape (she's apparently at the US Embassy now, but there isn't much information coming out about her situation recently). The article goes on to describe the genocides and persecutions against Christians in that part of the world for many years now.
ABE: In answer to Hooah, this article mentions the anti-Christian attitude in the West that is responsible for tolerating the persecutions of Christians elsewhere in the world. Christians in the West aren't being actively or violently persecuted, but we could call the indifference and the ridicule we get, the angry denunciations, the mischaracterizations of our beliefs, the general nastiness against us, the false moral equivalence with Islam as just another fundamentalism, the distortion of history, "soft persecution." Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
And here's a story about the negotiations to get her out of Sudan now that she's at the US Embassy and why it's not easy to do.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What exactly is it in her opinion piece that has you so riled up? The idea that there is an anti-Christian attitude in the West? Since you all share it here I don't see why that would be controversial. Anything else?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Of course we aren't being persecuted like they are in the rest of the world, and we can be very grateful that there is still freedom of speech here, but the atmosphere has very clearly turned hostile against Christians over the last few decades. You may not have noticed it but I sure do. It's just an atmosphere, not persecution, but it's a big change from half a century ago.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I used to be an atheist and was never even remotely persecuted for it.
But at least you acknowleddge that now Christians are persecuted. In some sense. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I was able to read it when I posted it. I think it must have gone into archive after that so now I can't read it either. I thought it was a good overview of the history of persecution of Christians starting with the Roman Empire and focusing on the last couple of decades in Africa especially. Too bad it's gone.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I really was an atheist. An atheist teacher plus atheist friends influenced me in that direction in high school. Before that I was sort of kind of a Christian but had no real personal investment in it, had been sent to church, learned a few Christian things, but didn't really understand anything about the gospel or salvation, gave it up fairly easily at fifteen as the "rational" thing to do. Became a real Christian about thirty years later after coming to believe in the supernatural, getting involved in occultic stuff, falling in love with the Catholic mystics and finally reading my way to Reformation Protestantism.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm not upset about anything.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
And this post of yours with its slimy and unjustifiable insinuations is a perfect example of the hostility I'm talking about.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No it's just unwarranted hatred of God and Christians built on lies, misinterpretations, sheer ill will.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Complaining? Thought I was just reporting an objective fact. Whatever.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yes it is horrible, thanks for posting this. I hear about these things through Christian sources, really sad how the West has allowed these things to go on without doing anything about it. The connection with the war in Iraq is sad, I still remember Bush's stupid "Islam is a religion of peace" remark. And Meriam Ibrahim is still holed up in the American embassy in Sudan. Sudan doesn't want to let her go, she's sort of an emblem of their right to impose Islam on everybody.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I thought it was mostly about her supposedly having forged documents.
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