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Marxism vs Socialism vs Communism vs Totalitarianisms

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ringo
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Message 3 of 45 (746398)
01-06-2015 12:17 PM 		Reply to: Message 2 by Faith
01-06-2015 12:01 PM

Re: Would Jesus support capitalism or communism?
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Jesus wouldn't carry a gun because He came with a special mission to save the world, but that doesn't mean He would oppose the carrying of guns for self-defense in this fallen world where we are still vulnerable to all kinds of dangers and threats against us.
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Matthew 5:38-39 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
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Message 18 of 45 (746482)
01-07-2015 10:46 AM 		Reply to: Message 5 by Faith
01-06-2015 12:32 PM

Re: Would Jesus support capitalism or communism?
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Also, you can perhaps deny yourself self defense, if only your own wellbeing is at stake, but how do you justify denying your protection to your children?
Indeed. And how can you not extend that to your neighbour's well-being?
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Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.
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Matthew 22:37-39 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
The Great Socialist and His Son agreed that we should take care of our neighbours the same as we take care of ourselves or our children - protecting them not only from physical danger but also from hunger, disease, etc.
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Message 23 of 45 (746696)
01-09-2015 10:50 AM 		Reply to: Message 22 by Faith
01-08-2015 10:33 PM

Re: Would Jesus support capitalism or communism?
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ringo writes:
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And how can you not extend that to your neighbour's well-being?
Oh but I do, and have said so many times.
Socialist.
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01-10-2015 11:27 AM 		Reply to: Message 33 by Faith
01-09-2015 5:26 PM

Re: Stalin is not Marx
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The killing of your opponents, dissidents, etc., is the natural outcome of Marxism.
Actually, the killing of your opponents is the natural outcome of capitalism. You know, that whole competition thing?
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01-10-2015 11:39 AM 		Reply to: Message 42 by Coyote
01-10-2015 11:32 AM

Re: Stalin is not Marx
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You see Apple, IBM, General Motors field armies and shooting their competition?
I saw the British and French armies shooting each other for centuries in competition for world resources and markets.
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