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Marxism vs Socialism vs Communism vs Totalitarianisms

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Message 19 of 45 (746504)
01-07-2015 12:32 PM 		Reply to: Message 10 by jar
01-06-2015 2:29 PM

For Him or Against Him?
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Well according to the Bible Jesus lived in a communistic community but was unable to abide by the rules and so used luxuries for himself instead of the poor. The account is found in Matthew, Mark and John. Luke has a somewhat different version of the story.(...)
From the Bible stories it seem Jesus would have espoused Communism over Capitalism but would likely not have the moral capability to follow through.
And your purpose for telling us this is....? Are you somehow proving that jars perception of logic, reason, and morality are superior to that of Jesus Christ? Are you for Him or against Him, jar. What exactly is it that you preach here?
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If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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01-09-2015 11:20 AM 		Reply to: Message 20 by jar
01-07-2015 12:55 PM

Re: For Him or Against Him?
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I don't preach anything Phat, just report what the authors of the New Testament stories wrote.
It has absolutely nothing to do with being for or against anyone but rather honestly reporting what was actually written.
Fair enough. Perhaps each of us here--on this forum---should ask ourselves if we want to report everything or only report what it is we want others to read?
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Personally, I report on Jesus divinity, whereas you report on his humanity...thus we differ.
Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo
It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo
If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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Message 26 of 45 (746711)
01-09-2015 11:28 AM 		Reply to: Message 23 by ringo
01-09-2015 10:50 AM

Re: Would Jesus support capitalism or communism?
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socialist!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMLgEnDGkG4
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It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo
If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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Message 27 of 45 (746745)
01-09-2015 1:25 PM 		Reply to: Message 25 by jar
01-09-2015 11:26 AM

Re: For Him or Against Him?
and I would argue that you demean Jesus through your selective reports
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We humans cannot be better than He is even if we might behave better than he did while human...which is quite frankly a difficult charge in and of itself. It was not His fault that the alabaster oil was "wasted" on him.
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You say He was a failed Messiah because you have the same spirit of stupor in your thinking that the Jews themselves have to this day.
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You claim to be a Creedal Christian. Why cant you read beyond the fact that he was made man?
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Who Is Jesus today?
Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo
It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo
If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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