Multiculturalism

He did convert, listen to his testimony at the beginning of that talk I posted. He rejected his family's Protestantism so had to convert later.Only a born again Protestant can appreciate this, though, I suppose, since Catholics and others think you are a certain religion simply by being born into it. Protestants do not see it this way, you have to experience a conversion, being born again, to become a Christian because being a Christian is a supernatural thing. This is why your complaints about the No True Scotsman fallacy are not valid. Nominal Protestants are not Protestants because they do not have the supernatural birth.

This is just more hate based nonsense.First, regardless of your belief, this is non-standard terminology. Conversion means from one religion to another. We typically do not call being "born again" conversion unless the person followed some other religion.Secondly, bring born again is not just some kind of fundy belief. Catholics do require that you be born again. Nobody claims that just being of a Catholic or Protestant family is enough or that even calling yourself a Protestant or Catholic is enough.

Utter bullshit Faith.Protestants do understand that. You are a certain religion by being a member of that religion. Being a Christian is nothing supernaturalYou really need to stop claiming you have a clue what all Protestant know or believe.

I wouldn't claim to know what phony Protestants such as yourself believe, you certainly have a large collection of beliefs that aren't even traditionally liberal Protestant, just something of your own bizarre invention.

Conversion implies changing from one religion to another. If he was not religious before there is no conversion.But I see that you fundies do consider it a conversion. As you have different definitions to words than most of us, you should be clearer ion the meaning of terms you use.Also, still waiting for some source stating that he considered himself Irish.

Conversion means a change, that's what the word means. It may mean different things in different contexts but I've always understood it to refer to being born again. I can stick to born again if it makes things clearer.Jesus Himself said you must be born again you know, but it can't just be assumed, it is an actual supernatural change that people do experience.

Listen to his testimony, he was very nasty to the girls who witnessed to him, definitely not a Christian at that point.

I do not listen to hateful, disgusting windbags.

But again you can offer no evidence to support your claims it seems. The Episcopal Church, the COE, The Lutheran, Methodist and Presbyterian churches all recognize Roman Catholicism as being Christian. Jews and Muslims recognize the Roman Catholic church as being Christian. The Dalai Lama recognizes the Roman Catholic church as being Christian. Jesus says that "His" church will be founded by Peter. Hell even you are recognized as being a Christian.

With the exception of some orthodox Presbyterian and Lutheran churches, your references are to apostate or nonChristian churches and groups who haven't a clue what Christianity really is, but you can be sure that the identification of the RCC with Christianity gives them the boost they need to recover the world domination they lost at the Reformation and reinstitute the Inquisition. I can hardly wait, how about you?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Which is how I try to deal with you too.

LOL Apostate?World Domination? That sounds far more like the Christian Dominionist nutjobs.The Roman Catholic church never dominated the world and there is absolutely no evidence they have any desire to do so.What I posted simply shows that both Cristian and no-Christian religions understand the the Roman Catholic church is one chapter of Club Christian even if you try to deny the truth yet again.

So no defense for the guy you want to use as a reference.You again resort to insults and attacks. Pitiful.

I think the link speaks for itself and it takes a nasty ugly bias to talk about him as you did. I have no interest in defending him to you. Stew in your own lies.

Be Calm.The blessing destroys the curse. When opponents goad you, it is best to reply with a blessing or keep quiet. Edited by AdminPhat, : added