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Message 19 of 52 (781306)
04-03-2016 10:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
02-23-2016 8:47 PM


No. It means that earth time may not equal star time.

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Message 21 of 52 (781370)
04-04-2016 1:15 PM
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04-04-2016 7:01 AM


We see everything in time that exists here. How would we know if time did not exist the same or at all out there?

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Message 23 of 52 (781416)
04-04-2016 2:15 PM
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04-04-2016 1:51 PM


From your link

"We report on radio-timing observations of the pulsar J0348+0432 and phase-resolved optical spectroscopy of its white-dwarf companion, which is in a 2.46-hour orbit. We used these to derive the component masses and orbital parameters, infer the system’s motion, and constrain its age."

They USE time. Timing. Timing as seen from and based on earth time and space. Religion.


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Message 31 of 52 (781473)
04-04-2016 4:37 PM
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04-04-2016 3:12 PM


Re: A Hypothetical Question
Who knows? Could be future for all I know or neither!

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Message 32 of 52 (781474)
04-04-2016 4:39 PM
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04-04-2016 3:30 PM


Re: Wish I May Wish I Might
Keep in mind that we actually do not know the size of stars or how far they really are! To know that we would have to know what time is like there. A ear may not be a year as we know it there, and light and other things may not take light years to do anything. The distances and sizes and what stars even are is all belief based conjecture, and godless conjecture at that.

Edited by starlite, : No reason given.


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Message 33 of 52 (781475)
04-04-2016 4:41 PM
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04-04-2016 3:42 PM


Estimated means believed. Prophesied.

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Message 36 of 52 (781501)
04-04-2016 8:30 PM
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04-04-2016 5:57 PM


Re: A Hypothetical Question
What's wrong with I don't know? Why teach kids something made up to pretend you do?

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Message 38 of 52 (781503)
04-04-2016 8:44 PM
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04-04-2016 8:16 PM


[/quote]
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No, that is not what estimated means.
False. Is is exactly what it means when talking about what we were talking about. All one needs to do is look at the fundamental basis for the 'estimations'.

The post to which you are replying said:

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It's estimated that our sun will last for another 4 or 5 billion years, but the universe is at least 14.5 billion years old.
Right...so that is false prophesy with zero proof. A statement of faith things will go on as they now are...or more exactly as you think they now are. Pretty lame religion.

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Our sun is pretty small and boring and so likely has a longer lifetime than many larger suns so it is almost certain that many of the stars and galaxies we see no longer exist.

False. Our sun is big and wonderfully made. It also does not work the way you think! In all ways you preach belief.

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The statements above are conclusions based on observation of reality instead of myth. we can see other stars and we can actually measure things such as their sizes, distances, masses, chemical constitution, surface temperature and energy production.
False. Distances cannot be known unless you know time and spacetime as we know it exists in the whole universe. You can't. Therefore you are preaching faith only.

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When things happen they leave evidence.
Depends what kind of things. Show us some evidence that something dated a billion or so years old, had no daughter isotopes before any decay started at all? What, we must assume this or it is not 'science'!!?

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We can look at a spectrum and determine chemical constitution.
False yet again. You can not know if there is more than we can see. What we can determine would be the chemical realities as seen here on earth! Whatever else we may not be able to see, we can't know about. How big or far the star is we cannot know. You are hopelessly limited.

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We can look at the behavior of other objects in the vicinity of the star being examined and determine its mass and from that it's size.
In other words you can make the same mistake on more than one item! Big deal. Unless time exists and exists as it does here neither object is known as to distance or size!

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We can determine its direction of movement and it velocity.
That does nothing unless we know what is moving, and where...and when!

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When science uses the term estimate it does not mean believed or prophesied, those two term rest in the realm of mythology.

Yes it means only that, precisely that and nothing at all else.

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You may not accept the results of the evidence but that is fine.
The evidence we wait for is you proving time exists and exists the same out there. We wait. And wait. And wait. Until then all you do is molest evidence with your beliefs.

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In the US at least you and the rest of the Christian Cult of Ignorance have a right to your fantasies but they remain simply willful ignorance.
Insulting parts of a population may seem cool to you. They are bright brilliant stars compared to you so far though.
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You do not have to remain ignorant however and this is a good place for you to begin learning.

Let me help you with that misconception. You learn, I teach.

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Message 39 of 52 (781504)
04-04-2016 8:45 PM
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04-04-2016 8:40 PM


Re: A Hypothetical Question
Right, that seems to tell us it hasn't sunk in yet that you do not know. Really.

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Message 41 of 52 (781512)
04-04-2016 9:02 PM
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04-04-2016 9:01 PM


Re: [/quote]
Good so don't do it. My position is that to claim decay existed in the far past you must prove it first. Not assume it.

Edited by starlite, : No reason given.


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Message 49 of 52 (781525)
04-04-2016 9:31 PM
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04-04-2016 9:09 PM


Re: Prove It
I would not use science that is too small.

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