Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Relax, Lammy, nobody is coming after you. I'm the one who should be most disappointed in Trump because he refuses to do anything about gay marriage, which is an attack on Christians. And the only Mexicans Trump is going after are those with known criminal records who are here illegally. If he's going to limit refugee immigration why should they have to lie low? Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

And what mad revisionist convinced you of that?It's SO funny that the church thrived for 2000 years without such revisionist doctrines as yours.Sigh.

I'm surprised that after all the discussion about this you'd not know what I meant. There have been five known incidents -- there may be more by now but I haven't heard about them -- of businesses being sued because the owners said that because of their Christian belief, based on the Bible, they could not in good conscience do anything that would imply the acceptance of gay marriage. The customer can buy a cake but the owners can't make a custom cake. The photographer can't take wedding photos; They can buy all the flowers they want, but the florist can't design a personalized layout for a gay wedding. It doesn't matter what anybody else thinks, this is how a Christian sees the situation. The law legalizing gay marriage has brought this about. Gays don't have to go to Christians for their wedding supplies, but in these five cases they did. Not to an atheist business where there wouldn't be a problem. Also not to a Muslim baker or photographer or florist, and not to a Jewish baker or photographer or florist, but to a Christian baker, photographer and florist. The others would have to decline as well if they are true to their religion, but in any case the Christian must do so.abe: Since jar has argued that some Christians don't feel this way I need to say I'm talking about strict Bible-believing Christians.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Whether you think it is silly or not, all these business owners independently understood their Christian duty was to refuse to do something that would validate gay marriage. I know exactly why they came to the conclusion they did, it's open and shut in my mind. I'm surprised you don't get it.Do you also think that all those Christans who were slaughtered in the Middle Ages were silly for refusing to affirm the docrine of transubstantion?What does this have to do with what OTHERS think? It's entirely about the business owners' own conscience based on their understanding of God's law.This isdn't about "sinners." The objection is very specific: it's to the event of gay marriage and nothing else. It's about being required to do something that very specifically endorses a gay wedding, by designing a personalized wedding cake for instance, or a floral arrangement. It's about gay marriage, not about the sin of homosexuality, and there is no restriction on what goods and services are available except any specific custom requirement for a gay wedding, which makes it a personal commitment which is what engages te conscience. One's conscience isn't engaged in serving anybody in any other way.Well I'm sorry you don't get it. It's quite clear to those who were put in that position and it's clear to me.This "forces" nothing on anybody. At most it means they might consider respecting the Christisn's conscience and go to a nonChristian business, an inconvenience but nothing worse than that. Otherwise they can sue people out of business, and if the business can't come p with the money, get them put in prison. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

For what it's worth that has been exposed as false. A foreign nation DID try to affect the election process but it was China, not Russia, and it was done to improve Hillary's chances, not Trump's. To learn the facts about these things you would have to go to the non-fake news sources, the independent media rather than the fake-news generators, the MSM.

Because they make a convincing case for most of their claims.Doesn't matter to me whether you agree or not. Take it or leave it.

Uh huh, but it's the Christians they are coming for now and you manage not to see it.

Infowars, Drudge, Breitbart

As I said, they support their points far more convincingly than the real fake news misnamed the MSM. Today's Infowars radio shows are discussing the fact that there is absolutely no evidence of Russian hacking, but lots of evidence that China interfered for Hillary, which is reported in their own news reports. Infowars.com/watch-alex-jones-show. The sources I named are very careful about their sources.