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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Yes, true scientists test and prove their theories.
True scientists find truths and laws. True scientists are not swayed by their peers or the belief systems of others, they have open minds and hearts, and just search until they find truths. And besides all truths have to be connected and joined, no truth stands alone, but leads to other truths. IHTS David. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Thats not a nice thing to say in a coffeeshop, Coyote.
I was just being nice to Raz and agreeing with him completely, and adding one more turth to his. Control your emotions from losing elsewhere and just learn to chat over coffee and focus on things we agree on. Im a scientist and love science and truths and laws. I dont like theories that are unproven and bogus. I like laws SEE Thread on LAWS did not evolve. Jay sips on his Columbian coffee, and continues chatting with Raz about their agreements and about new people entering into the Coffee Shop. The sun is shinning outside and all is well inside the coffee shop. Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Jay notices a beauty walk through the door, and mentions it to Raz... they both take a long look and imaginations soar.
They take a deep breath and then relate how science revealed is just like a beauty revealed, step by step, one piece of clothing at a time until the final revealment and final total unveiling.Now thats exciting and thrilling and reproductive and entrancing, as science does the same thing. Finding truths is exciting and yet it takes some time and deciation to get beneath the layers. We can imagine but we have to slowly reveal one precept after another until we finnally disover what has always been there, the original..... and glorious was the beauty thereof and awesome truth thereof. SEE What is beauty Whatisbeauty. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
My paradigm is testing, I dont like people who talk about things they have never tested and who have closed minds about ideas they have neither studied nor tested mushc less proven. I like laws and truths not theories and mere words. I like people with guts and courage and those that have experienced real life and real people and tested real principles to see if they work and are valid.
I dislike gutless people who deny everything> Real scientists study and test and verify.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Nah, beauty is the Phi template of creation, as all societies because of our common Creator all have the same ratios of beauty.
phi beauty in all cultures - Google Search Our common Creator used our beauty to our mates to help us be attracted so we would reproduce. He/she created sex.... and beauty and attractions. Evolutionists believe in randomness rather than ratios and mathematics, and think our attractions just happened by luck and chance. Nevertheless, we should start a new thread on this once we get out of this coffee shop. SEE Proposed New Topics.. Look at that beauty that just walked in, now thats what I call a figure, a PHI figure, Look at those ratio's.... I gotta have a cold shower.... Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Real scientists go behind the scenes because they know from sceince and physics, that the EMF is 70 times bigger than the mere human spectrum we humans can see. They dont deny what they haven't tested just because they cant seen it or haven't experienced it.
Real scientists go beyond the forced indocrination they get from followers. They venture forth with courage and guts and foresight, searching for more truths. They are not intimidated by the masses, they are pioneers, and demand answers rather than just being negative and deniers. Real scientists demand proofs for themselves, and dont stop til they find out one way or the other. They do not follow as dumb sheep, for the slaughter. They go where others dare not go. They can explain what they have found out, and know the subject matter backwards and forwards, and go step by step or precept by precept..... one truth leading to another. They do not rely on luck and chance as their means of solving mysteries. They want to test things out personnally themselves....and they do. Metaphysics is just the invisable and is no barrier to a real scientist. Only the closed minded ones that closed their eyes or demand to see only with their eyes. They miss 69/70 percent of all truths. They understand not the macro-cosm or the micro-cosm. Jay sips more of his coffee........ for he has them right where he wants them..... evolutionists and atheists and blind scientists are so dumb and so easily defeated..... The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
I thought you just called people liars, Coyote, thats all you seem to ever do.
Maybe it works in your fields where you are expected to find finds that support evolution, so that you can get more funding for your field trips. Me, among other occupations I am sort of an ARCHeologist too...as I have studied ARCHES... and architecture Architecture of the Universe The Lord was and is the Great Architect who createdall things . . . . including every living thing. This He did through His consistent templates of common design. He built all things, with us as His supreme creation and 'temple'. For we are made in His Image, and His Handiwork is shown in all the Earth as well as the whole Universe. What is Architectural Beauty - PhiHomepage Heavenly Mysteries Sexual Mysteries Math Mysteries Science Mysteries Music Frequency Earth Mysteries Prophecy Mysteries Related Articles Jesus is the Creator Famous Christian Scientists Pineal Projection . Phi construction of Body Graphics Golden Section in Human Body Golden Section 'Phi' Class Divine Design of Human Face Face Profile Design Phi Mysteries Spiral Pathway Cydonian Altar Creation not Evolution Creation in 24 hours World History Design Phi Template of Life Lord's Phi Spiral of Creation DNA Phi Spiral SemenGreat Pyramid Prophecy Who built the Great Pyramid Harmonic Power of Great Pyramid Harmony and Chord of Triumph Lord's Temple, Architecture and Sacred Sex New Jerusalem is a Crystal Pyramid Lord's Temple is Human and Sexual Nakedness on Ramp to Altar Christos Angle Ramp Fire on Altar of Sacrifice Fire of the Lord Joachin and Boaz Pillars Male and Female Pillars Chartres and 2 Prophetic Pillars Tree of Life - Kaballah Sex in the Temple Ark and Tabernacle ARTICLES Sacred Geometry Sacred Geometery and Music Squared Circle Naked Man in Squared Circle Vitruvian Man Graphics Solved Female comparison to Tabernacle Vescica Pisces Pearly Gates of Virgin Temple Gates are Female Genitalia Tabernacle - Vescica Pisces Sex in the Tabernacle Christian Fish Symbol Music of the Spheres Heavenly Body Harmonics Pythagoras Comma Tabernacle of the Sun Magic Square of the Sun Tabernacle of Light Light Speed proves Design Phi Spiral of Planets ARCHITECTURE Davidjayjordan@yahoo.com But thanks for revealing your occupation or what you make your living doing. It explasins why you are get so mad and get so zealous if anyone questions your livlihood. Me, I'm mainly a *************** ************** and as mentioned I had to prove it and make sure, and test it on the field over and over and over again, with others, alone, in different country in my home country..... and * ** Wait for it Jay has them again where he wants them..... He slowly sips some more coffeee, and before it gets too cold..... He (wait for it) **** Evolutionists and archeologists are so dumb. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
The real world, is not just what the human eye sees. In science, the real world involves what we can not see, because the EMF is real and is proven to be real over and over and over again. Our human sight is limited, but can not limit our knowledge of the unseen world beyond. WE know about x rays, radio waves, etc etc etc, inrared waves, below and baove our limited seeing range.
Denial by the worldly people who refuse to go beyond to the world of science and spirituality, lose out because of their denails, denails denials. Real scientists are not afraid of the dark, or the spiritual world.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
The facts known do not correspond to luck and chance philosophy.
Thats a desperate frustrated conclusion reached by bound blinded scientists who limit their searches to what they want to see or not see. Real scientists go beyond into real testing and real discovery.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
So the only way to personally explore the spirit world, beyond the realm of the blinded and unseeing is to test it out and see personally...as Jesus said.
'Taste and see if the Lord is good' Experience it, try it, test it... if it fails, then you have been honest and courageous and have done your part. But true scientists do not know football til they have gone on the field and taken the hits and experienced the pain and known the agony of defeat and the euphoria of victory. They cant be on the side line, denying denying denying, as whimps and whoosies and yet bragging about their theories that are unproven. They have no expertise because they have never put the pads on, and experienced. They are cowards and whimps and whoosies.... fearful of their inabilities and inexperiences, because they are AFRAID But real scientists explore and try and test out theories. They find out if Jesus is real, and test HIM, and challenge HIM, and step out. After finding out He is real, then they must continue to test and TEST and EXPERIENCE and PROVE that the different things the Lord said work and are true. To HELL with evolutionary theories and spiritual theories and atheism and their theories, a true scientist tests and proves all principles and puts them to the test in real life. He or she tests out the faith walk and sees if the Lord provides. They give 100 percent and put it all on the line, not like whoosie archeologists in their digs, or biologists trying to pad their pockets with bones and theories... real scientists do it, and experience it, and test it.. And only from this can a true scientist know and understand and gain knowledge and wisdom from first hand experience. Jesus WINS, Jesus is proveable, being a missionary for Jesus wins, now and FOREVER Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given. Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
The test is your life and all your senses.
You yourself have to prove things to yourself and stop bowing to the pressures of others, and intimidation, fear of losing your job or friends, etc etc... you have to have the guts to prove Jesus to yourself. If you reject HIM personnally from direct effort, so be it. You can hold your head high and declare HIM a LIE and a charlatan and every other name under the book as others have done. But dont do such idocracy just because the dam church system is so damnable or the dam preachers are so damnable and vile, do so from first hand experience rather than hersay and indirect evidence and circumstantial evidence. Sort through the lies and half truths and get to the CORE. Get to Jesus and deny HIM because you meet HIM and dislike HIM and hate HIM, or say He didn;t prove himself to you, so you dislike Him or Hate Him or Hate His followers etc. Go to the source, dont be whimpy and evasive, be a real scientist, and find OUT. **************** JESUS' OWN WORDSSalvation Holy Spirit Back to Jesus And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall neverthirst. Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I willgive is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shallhave the light of life. Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son ofGod? Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye cando nothing. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and thebright and morning star. Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding Great Reward. Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but theFather that dwelleth in me, My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into thekingdom of God that which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. The words that I (Jesus) speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. ***************************************************************************** (((If you believe these His Words, you are receiving Him. For 'As many as believed on Him, to them gave He the power tobecome the 'sons (and daughters) of God' (John 1; 12) For God so loved the world that He gave His ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, that whosoever believeth on Him, should not perish but have EVERLASTING LIFE. (John 3: 16) ..... Receive Him Now....... Jesus loves you !!! ))) JESUS'S OWN WORDSSalvation Holy Spirit Back to Jesus Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
To find out if someone exists and is a real person, the ultimate test is meeting them.
Christians say, they have meet Jesus, Jesus said, He can meet any person who wants to know if he is real. Thats the ultimate test, and once someone has meet someone who exists, they KNOW that person is real. Its not a belief system, a hoping, a faith, but a KNOWING. Scientists usually just believe, a CHRISTIAN KNOWS JESUS is REAL. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Real scientists test out and see if Jesus is real...and stop complaining about their pet peeves and others and calling others names. They just go to the SOURCE.
They dont back up a theory just because their whole lives depend on that theory, all their livlihood involves their compliance to a theory, all their funding, their job, their bank accounts, etc etc... all are based on that theory. Their friendships, their relationships, based on bones that must comply to the theory of evolution or they are blacklisted and removed from their jobs and homes. True scientists have courage and find out truths regardless of consequences. I did, I proved Jesus was real, while in University..graduated even when evolutionary profs tried to prevent it, and then went on to be a missionary for Jesus for life...for LIFE< all my life, by the Grace of God. Thats over 40 some years as a missionary for Jesus, I know from doing it and not just from the experiences of others. I did it and KNOW JESUS IS REAL . As mentioned, KNOWING is different than believing. Evolutionists believe in their myth and theory, but true scientists know and have tested and proven theories so it becomes a law, to them.Christians KNOW Jesus is real. If you dont know, know that you can KNOW, and dont have to sit on the fence. Challenge HIM to prove HIMSELF TO YOU HowtogetFaith. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Jesus can prove HIMSELF in whatever way He chooses...
(Even to those that mock HIM and are in the process of killing His people, as Paul was doing ******************** Salvation SALVATION Salvation is the way in which the Lord, Our Creator, saves us from our sins and the penalty wedeserve for committing them. For as we all know in our hearts, none of us are perfect. We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23) And because the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23, Isaiah 64:6), we either have to pay with our lives or have somebody replace us, for without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. (Hebrews 9:22). This is why Jesus chose to die for us on the cross. (I Corinthians 1:18) some 2000 years ago. He was the Lamb of God (Genesis 22:8, John 1:29) that was sacrificed for the atonement or forgiveness of our sins, IF we accept Him as our Savoiur. We cant pay for it or earn it in any way including trying to obey ten or a thousand commandments. His salvation is a total gift. (Romans 6:23b). We just have to realize that we aren't righteous and never will be, and that only He is good, the LORD is OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. (Jeremiah 23:6). For ONLY with JESUS is there forgiveness of sins, and its only through His free gift of salvation that we can have eternal life, starting now on into eternity. (John 5: 24) If we reject Him, we reject the Father. If we accept Him, we accept the Father. For as Jesus so simplyand eloquently said to Nicodemus, one of the Masters of Israel that knew so little about spiritual things. You must be born again Except a man be born of water and of the spirit, he cannot enter into thekingdom of God. That which born of the flesh is flesh, and that which born of the spirit is spirit For God so loved the world that He gave His ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, that whosoever believeth in Him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:1-21) Believing just means drinking in or receiving this truth. For as many as received Him, to them gaveHe the POWER to become the sons of God. (John 1:12). So to receive, you need only to pray or communicate to Him with all your heart, and He will hear you. (Jeremiah 33:3). You can pray in your heart or out loud, alone or in a group, but whichever way you reach out to Jesus, be assured that He will answer you. For He promised that everyone that seeketh findeth, and everyone that asketh shall receive, and everyone that knocketh it shall be opened unto them. (Mathew 7:7) So if you ask Him into your heart in prayer, He shall come into your heart and soul. Revelation 3:20). If you ask for forgiveness, Jesus will forgive you your past sins, present sins and even your future sins.(1John 1:9) For the Lord is good and His MERCY endureth forever. (Psalm 118:1). For if you receive Him, you will have eternal life and hope and a purpose for living. Why not pray NOW for today is the day of SALVATION. (I Corinthians 6:2) Sometimes there are great feelings, sometimes not. Sometimes miraculous things happen right after,sometimes not. But regardless, nothing can change the FACT and absolute certainty, that if you call out to the Lord, He will personally answer you, and He will save you. You will have SALVATION. It is His Promise, for as Jesus said, "I will not leave thee nor forsake thee" (Hebrews 13:5b) He has never lost one of his sheep. (John 6:37). It's law. It is His WORD and He has always kept His Word. (I John 5:11) Jesus loves you !!! The Creator of ALL the Universe loves you !!! In His Service David and Trixie If you received Jesus as your Saviour,please continue on, by receiving His HOLY SPIRIT ****************************** Praying whether eyes open or closed is the best way, you choose, you have the guts to ask HIM IN.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2358 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Why Jesus, test Him and find out why he is different.
Believe in Buuda, set up your statues and dont hurt mosquitos etc.... see if it is the truth.. But then again Budda never said what Jesus said. Compare the words, test the words, analyse the words, dig deep, dont be shallow and flippant. Know the difference, Experience the difference... Test everyone of Jesus doctrines and principles and decide. True scientists test Test darn Ya's test, rather than your endless bablle and denials.. Challenge Jesus, if you say He didn;t answer your half hearted plea or prayer or give you any truths, so be it. Dont go by semantics like the evolutionists, dont be a theorists all your life, get in the game and experience, and prove things for yourself. Have some balls or ovaries, and courage enough to test and see.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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