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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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1. You don't know how evolutionary mechanisms produced an amphibian's double-circulation heart ... Yes, we do know. You don’t know because you reject the overwhelming evidence of reality for your silly little religious reasons.
2. You don't know how evolutionary mechanisms produce a whale's ... Yes, we do know. You don’t know because you reject the overwhelming evidence of reality for your silly little religious reasons.
3. In fact, you don't how evolutionary mechanisms produced any evolutionary transitions evident in the fossil record. Yes, we do know. You don’t know because you reject the overwhelming evidence of reality for your silly little religious reasons.
1 + 2 + 3 = your claim to know how evolution works is clearly bullsh_t. Oooo, git the admin. He tried to say bullshit. Couldn't even get that right.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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vimesey Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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Regardless, I shall present my argument one more time Here is a definition of "argument" (first result from a Google search): "a reason or set of reasons given in support of an idea, action or theory." What you have set out is a list of three bald assertions - no reasons or sets of reasons. And as we all know, in the absence of evidence, a bald assertion is, in the vast majority of cases, a lie or a delusion. We have tons of evidence - a gnat's whisker would outweigh yours.Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Stop lying. Respond to Message 120. 2. You don't know how evolutionary mechanisms produce a whale's blowhole and tail from a land animal.
"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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Percy Member Posts: 22506 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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Is the fact that you're not responding to any of the answers people provide you really not apparent to you? Are you truly unaware that you're just repeating the same argument over and over again? Are the many times people have called this to your attention really failing to penetrate your consciousness?
--Percy
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
ringo writes:
You have no way of confirming that a whale's nostrils evolved from the nosrils of a land mammal and you have no way of confirming any process that might be responsible ... therefore you cannot claim to know how that (alleged) transition occurred. When you live in the water, it's more efficient to breathe through the top of your head instead of the front of your face. Transitionals with their nostrils closer to the surface had a better chance of survival - they didn't have to stand on their tails to breathe. (Maybe that infamous "vertical whale" had his fatal accident while taking a breath.)
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
ringo writes:
... yet there are millions of Darwinists out there who believe the theory of evolution is also a fact. The atheist variety are especially devoted to this theory/fact belief system.
A theory is an explanation of a fact. So no, a theory doesn't "become" a fact. Never has, never will. Nobody but an illiterate anti-science dimwit would ever suggest that a theory "turns into" a fact.
But evolution is a fact. And the theory of Evolution is an explanation of that fact.
What "evolution" are you referring to?
Nobody but an illiterate anti-science dimwit would ever suggest that a theory "turns into" a fact.
I hope you're not suggesting that I myself am "illiterate" ... I'm semi-illiterate.As for being a "dimwit" ... yes, that's true; I am a dimwit (although I prefer the word, "halfwit"). As for being "anti-science" ... not me.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
yet there are millions of Darwinists out there who believe the theory of evolution is also a fact. Actually that would be millions of creationists believe the theory of evolution is a fact. They are incorrect, just like you are incorrect.
The atheist variety are especially devoted to this theory/fact belief system. Oh really? Name one.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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You have no way of confirming that a whale's nostrils evolved from the nosrils of a land mammal ... Of course we have. We're not stupid lazy catholics who don't know how to study this world. Not only have we confirmed the evolution, we have the original land animal the whales evolved from: pakicetus.
you have no way of confirming any process that might be responsible ... therefore you cannot claim to know how that (alleged) transition occurred. Ignorant little boy. You have been told about the DNA and amino acid structures that make and change phenotypic traits like the relocation of nostrils to blowholes. We know you have major reading comprehension problems so maybe you should take a few and re-read upthread. The mechanism for biological change is there for you to study if you can put down your gun, your torch and your bible to actually learn the reality instead of hunting down gays, witches and altar boys.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
What "new body plans" are you referring to?
We produce new body plans and weird configurations of drosophila and other bugs in the lab every day.
And while you’re explaining, please explain why your catholic conception of a god is so murderous, blood thirsty and evil?
This would be funny if it weren't so sadly pathological ... completely and utterly off-topic, nevertheless you couldn't resist the urge to inject some hate-speech into the conversation.Edited by Dredge, .
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangle writes:
Your refusal to describe how evolution happened means you don't know how evolution happened.
Your refusal to say whether you accept that evolution has happened means that's there's little point discussing how it happened.You're just another fake Christian
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
What "new body plans" are you referring to? You haven't look it up yet? Lazy ignorant catholic.
nevertheless you couldn't resist the urge to inject some hate-speech into the conversation. You're a catholic. There is always hate speech involved in your conversations. You're whole creed, purpose and existence is built upon and dependant on a continuing flood of papal hate-speech and contempt for all humanity. My hate speech, my ass. You guys fill the world with your hate speech and hate actions every day.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
kjsimons writes:
Language is interesting, isn't it? In Australia, we don't say "asshole" ... we say "arsehole".
Listen asshole, since you can't describe cell division by cell division how you came to exist, then you can't possibly exist!So just f off unless you want to have a reasonable discussion.
If you know how evolution works, please describe how an amphibian's double-circulation heart (allegedly) evolved from the single-circulation heart of a fish. What was the first step?
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
nwr writes:
Dr. Gunter Bechly is one of my heroes! .. and evolutionnews.org has long been my favourite science website.
Gunter Bechly came up with a similar challenge. And several biologists answered it. But, of course, Bechly rejected all of their answers, because what he was really asking was a matter of his subjective opinion. And he was not about to accept any responses to his challenge. See the discussion here:
Thanx for the link ... I love to read Bechly's stuff.
Bechly’s “Species Pairs” Challenge
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tanypteryx writes:
Deary, deary me - that's not even close to what I said. I said it's delusional to equate the theory of evolution with knowledge (aka fact).
I don't know any Darwinists, but I know what all scientists mean when they talk about theories, which you irrationally think is a wild assed guess.your catholic cult actually is a fairy tale.
Here you go again ... claiming to know things that no one can possibly know. First you claimed to know how evolution works ... now you claim to know that Catholicism is a fairy tale. We've told you what we know, microevolution, descent with modification, repeated each generation
In that case, please describe the microevolutionary steps involved in the (alleged) evolution of an amphibian's double-circulation heart from the single-circulation heart of a fish.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Stile writes:
You can't describe the step-by-step process of even one evolutionary transition evident in the fossil record ... which means you can't claim to know how evolution works.
I don't know the step-by-step process involved in climbing Mt. Everest (or any specific, individual mountain, really...)But I know how people climb mountains. I don't know the step-by-step process involved in getting a 747 jet to take-off.But I know how airplanes fly. I don't know the step-by-step process involved in most of my colleagues' drive to work.But I know how people drive from point A to point B. You're lost in your own panic.
I sincerely thank you for your wonderful words of wisdom, which are ... so profound ... that I don't think I will ever understand them.
Like an adult desperately flailing their arms in 2 feet of water crying out that you can't swim... everyone around you is just so confused and thinking... why don't you just stand up?
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