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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
Whatever "knows evolution" means.
You mean like when the whole world knows evolution. Yeah, that's a fact.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Percy writes:
I didn't cut'n'paste that number in. I used my own words; I didn't copy them from anywhere. It means that it's not impossible that you could have inadvertently cut-n-pasted a superscript into the textbox, but there's no doubt that you did cut-n-paste it in. There's no other way it could have gotten there. That little number "6" popped up again about a week later, but I can't figure out where it came from.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Irrelevant.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
ringo writes:
There was no citation. There was no cover-up.
For future reference, failing to provide a citation for a quote is a lesser offense than lying about it. The cover-up is often worse than the original crime.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Nothing in your post demonstrates that vaccines could not be developed without the theory of universal common descent.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tanypteryx writes:
Why?
medicine DOES know about universal common ancestry and the more you know the more likely you will be able to find models for human health issues.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Dredge writes:
it's an inescapable fact you can't prove that know what process produced the changes evident in the fossil record.AZPaul3 writes:
Did some hill-billy teach you that "proof" means the same as "a theory supported by evidence"? As far as I know, there is no such teaching in science.
We have copious evidence that evolution is consistent in its operations as far back in time as we can physically see. We have identified, categorized, and lab/field tested and documented those operations we can see happen. We have no reasons to doubt the mechanisms we have identified extend well into those few remaining unknowable parts of our past.
Perhaps in your mind, your strongly-held atheist belief in ToE has somehow morphed into "proof". If so, that would amount to a delusion.
But your version of āproveā assumes that in those dark hidden parts some unknowable different mechanisms were in operation.
I don't recall claiming that such an assumption equates to proof ... or even that such an assumption is provable.
You insist, without evidence, without reasoning, that our documented mechanisms, as in the ToE, are wrong. That is your burden to prove.
1. No, not "without evidence, without reasoning".2. When did I claim that your "documented mechanism, as in ToE, are wrong"?
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Percy Member Posts: 22505 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Dredge writes: I didn't cut'n'paste that number in. I used my own words; I didn't copy them from anywhere. My natural inclination is toward trust, but the character you've exhibited here so far tells me that would be foolish in this case. The superscript issue is minor, but regardless of what really happened, that it's the remnants of a cut-n-paste you did is consistent with your other behavior here. That's the problem people create for themselves when they behave badly. They get blamed for any bad things that happen even when they're not actually responsible.
That little number "6" popped up again about a week later, but I can't figure out where it came from. What browser and machine type are you using (Windows? Mac? iPhone? Android?). I'll investigate the possible ways a superscript 6 could get inserted in a textbox (other than cut-n-pasting). I've already demonstrated to myself that on a Macbook Pro using Chrome (that's my personal setup) it isn't possible. --PercyEdited by Percy, : Minor clarification.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Might be time to cut the lying troll lose. Even Faith wasn't this bad.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Percy Member Posts: 22505 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
As a participant I can take no administrative action in this thread.
--Percy
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Tangle Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Given that he was identified as a troll hundreds of post ago, why are we still feeding him?
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. |
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
And the cover-up continues. There was no citation. There was no cover-up."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Incidentally, French has a third word for that, reconnaƮtre. I suppose Spanish, German, etc. do too. recognize I didn't read the rest of your quote. Stop doing that."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
You don't know very far. Did some hill-billy teach you that "proof" means the same as "a theory supported by evidence"? As far as I know, there is no such teaching in science. But there wouldn't be anything in science about proof, would there? Because, y'know, science doesn't deal in proof."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
You tell me. Since YECs claim to know so much more about science than scientists do, why don't YECs develop vaccines? Why don't YECs produce ANYTHING useful? What "YEC nonsense" would prevent a YEC from developing vaccines?"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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