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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5621 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6506 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Thanks Sy...you just stole the crown shared by Dan and Hambre for funniest guy at Evc [This message has been edited by Mammuthus, 02-23-2004]
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6506 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: Quantum mechanics and epigenetics were not known 30 years ago..those damn Darwinists..covering up everyones eyes
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6506 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: How about this for another word? Bullshit Really Sy...watching Quetzal and mark24 rip you to shreds and then your pathetic repetitive ignorance disorder makes you a truly pitiful figure. Most creationists by now would be tempted to actually read something about the subject to spare themeselves the humiliation (either that or crawl into a corner in a fetal position)..obviously the Nganjuk school system churns out some great success stories in obliviousness. Hey, I saw the forward of a book recently..it had the word "the" in it...maybe you can use that in your conspiracy babbling.
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6506 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote:I wanted to nominate you for Stupid Post of the Month but the category does not exist...must be a Darwinist conspiracy to suppress the fact that you are ignorant...it must be a massive conspiracy considering you are probably the least informed person on this site. quote: In order for one to investigate..one actually has to do some investigating to be sure that what they say is not utter bullshit. Guess what? You don't even want to read what anyone has ever said even if it might mean you could potentially find information that supports your blathering. I assume you don't want to "investigate" because you know you will find out you are wrong in every way and then you won't have anything to do in Nganjuk except cry in your milk.
quote: Well funny enough, investigation has not been surpressed at all. In fact a simple thing called "reading" (look it up Sy..oh forgot, you might have to read to find out what that entails ) would show that people look into exactly the subject you claim is suppressed..for example. In the Name of Eugenics: Genetics and the Uses of Human Heredityby Daniel J. Kevles quote: For anyone willing to read and educate themselves, the evidence for what Syamsu says is restricted to his blathering. He actually does a bigger disservice to the cause of exposing the misuse of science by society by being such an uninformed twit as his ignorance actually distracts from the actual issues which are important....but I hear he can do a mean wash.
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6506 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
Why don't you read Dawkin's yourself? Is it so hard for you to read? There is help available for people with reading disabilities.
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6506 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: So you have been lying all this time i.e. making broad claims about entire scientific disciplines and now saying you did not? In any case, even if it were true (and it is not) what difference would it make what happens here? This is a debate forum and not an investigators source of information.
quote: No serious intellectual makes statements about subjects in which they are not well read...so by definition, you are not a serious intellectual.
quote: I have brought this same book up many times. I have also discussed its content in various threads in which you have participated. You have universally ignored it and have never made the effort to find out about the book or the thousands of references directly to the publications of people involved in the eugenics movement that it contains. So you are the one here making inane statements.
quote:I'll make a deal with you. You go out and actually read some of the literature on eugenics and its origins and then come back and debate and I promise to be nicer to you. quote: Hey, you started it all by not preparing to back up your statements with fact...it is our pleasure to make fun of you for it.
quote: Hmmm taking quotes from Talkorigins now? How about we bring back the quotes made by you about Bosnian muslims being genetic degenerates? But humor me...how is the above statement wrong? And not based on your assertions but from credible independent sources.
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6506 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: blink blink blink...did you really mean to just say this?
quote: The Principles of Population Genetics, Daniel Hartl and Andrew ClarkGet a copy and live your dream. Or perhaps Evolutionary Biology by Douglas Futuyma. There are lots of basic textbooks as opposed to pop literature. quote: There is a difference between an informed amateur and someone who does not know anything...you obviously failed to grasp this concept.
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6506 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote:, I thought they defended creationism as being the truth? What support do you have for this statement? quote:What support do you have for this statement? The christians claim anyone who disagrees with them (including other christians) are hell bound morons..how equal is that? quote:I will give you that..I have never seen a group with as many varied and ridiculous "just so stories" with no evidence or logical support as creationists...very creative. quote: Fundamentalists loathe freedom of choice. They wish to force their dogma on everyone else. So this is plainly wrong.
quote: Name a single creationist that has ever made a scientific contribution based on creationism or describe a single scientific discovery that has EVER benefitted from creationism..the answer, none.
quote: Yet another unsupported statement...worse, there is only counter-evidence for this absurd statement. You know, Darwinsterrier got banned by Adminimoose for violation of forum guidelines but he seems perfectly willing to let a jackass like Syamsu get away with making unsupported assertions and not debating in good faith as he pleases...nice moderating How about forcing Syamsu to actually back up his statements as opposed to repeating them endlessly?
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6506 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: No, it contains a bunch of half assed opinions translated from German. And did you know that forum guidelines state that you should not just post links but should state how they support your arguments? I guess that is something else you never read either. Anyway, Since you are so repetitive, I will be as well.. Support the following
quote: quote: Quetzal and I have given you more than enough materials to read on the subject to get an independent appraisal. Until you read them you should post less and think more...you have that ratio badly skewed.
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6506 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: heh heh, I would have figured our resident guy who thinks RIF stands for reading is foolish, would have claimed you never asked him and when pressed claim that he does not have time to be an intellectual. If you bonked DT over the head with a stone, smothered him with a chloroform soaked rag, buried him under 100 meters of dirt, he would still post more informative, well thought, and interesting posts than Syamsu....and this is who Moose wants to protect?
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6506 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: Oh, so that is what they call "questions" in Nganjuk...it must be a very lonely place.
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6506 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
You have been given dozens of references that contradict what you have said. You have not read ANY OF THEM. You have thus lost the argument by being a willfully stupid ass. You might consider removing your head from your rectum and actually beginning to debate in good faith, not a strong point among creationists.
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6506 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: And every one of the articles refutes what you said..but how would you know? You never read them. I referenced two specific books and Quetzal many more...but how would you know? You never read them. You don't know if anything we cited supports or invalidates your assertions.
quote:Not as overboard as you have gone with your willful ignorance and bad faith debating...I'll stop telling you to pull your head out of your butt when you actually get off your lazy rump, inform yourself on the subjects being debated, and back up your assertions or retract them for lack of support. You assertions made out of ignorance is what has to stop...you have the foulest mouth of all..you are the shame of Nganjuk.
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6506 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: so your saying that if you argued about gravity as stupidly as you argue about Darwinism we can laugh at you...thanks but we beat you to the punch...what a knucklehead
quote: That you resort to tricks like willfully ignoring the mountains of literature on the subject you are debating (a common creationist trick) is a sign that you have no case... By the way, please describe the theory of gravity, the evidence that supports it, and how the conclusions were derived. After all, since you are comparing it with your self proclaimed familiarity with Darwin's writings I am sure you would be willing to regail us with the extensive research you have done on the theory of gravity.
quote: You have provided nothing. You have only refused to read anything that could either support or refute your arguemnts. Your link was not evidence but a badly translated and out of date list of opinions. Until you read a single piece of primary literature or any of the basic textbooks which are used to train scientists in evolution and ecology (some of which Queztal and I have referenced for you since you are too much of a lazy ass to find them yourself) I will continue to insist that you pull your head out of your butt and do some work. If as you admitted yourself, you lack the ability to be an "intellectual" (understatement of the century)...then you should shut the hell up. Otherwise go inform yourself and debate in good faith from an informed position.
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6506 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
Hey Mr. Hambre..here comes response 23.
quote: Yes, interesting subjects that you were completely unprepared to debate...even unwilling to read about even though you started the thread.
quote: If we did not talk to you, nobody would.
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