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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
No. I'm talking about the history of UCD - history that goes back millions-billions of years.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
That's right - driving a car doesn't require any knowledge of "nuts and bolts", nor any knowledge of how cars evolved.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
wrongsmith writes:
Why do you need to believe that all life shares a common ancestor to examine and compare the DNA of humans and other animals?
Now stating that using animal models doesn't require accepting the theory of UCD is like stating that using animal models doesn't require examining their DNA
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
AZPaul3 = APauling
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 7.0
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Dredgings:
Why do you need to believe that all life shares a common ancestor to examine and compare the DNA of humans and other animals? First off: "Why do you need to believe that all life shares a common ancestor?" I don't believe this, i accept it as demonstrated fact. Secondly, "to examine and compare the DNA of humans and other animals?" The measure of DNA separation can only be understood with UCD, otherwise you are shooting in the dark. I'm beginning to see you as a Sea Lion troll."I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
AZPaul3 = APauling Cute in a sad highschool kinda way, but I note you cannot refute what I said. Once again the bs you were trying foist on this thread is exposed as bogus. I win again!Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
APauling writes:
I didn't refute your comment coz - as usual - it was kinda irrelevant to the discussion.
I note you cannot refute what I said. APauling writes:
I understand why you consider my pearls of wisdom and astonishing Once again the bs you were trying foist on this thread is exposed as bogus.displays of scientific knowledge to be "bs" - you are afraid to face reality and the truth. Denial is a river in Egypt where cowards hide in the reeds and weave baskets (out of those same reeds).
APauling writes:
From time to time I allow you a small but inconsequential victory - otherwise you would surely descend into a pit of depression and despair. I win again! Lord knows I've made a fool of you on many, many occasions, which takes a toll on your confidence and mental health.
APauling writes:
The sooner you change your moniker from "AZPaul3" to "APauling", the better it will be for everyone ... including you. If you want to include a number or two, I urge you to consider "APauling666". Cute in a sad highschool kinda way "Don't pretend to be something you're not. Just be who you are. That's what's really cool." Ben Stiller as Starsky, Starsky & Hutch, 2004 film
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Why do you need to believe that all life shares a common ancestor to examine and compare the DNA of humans and other animals?wrongsmith writes:
That's wonderful, wrongsmith ... now all you have to do is explain how understanding the measure of DNA separation with UCD has provided a practical use in medicine. The measure of DNA separation can only be understood with UCD, otherwise you are shooting in the dark. In other words, which treatment of which disease has been created or improved by understanding the measure of DNA separation with UCD?
I'm beginning to see you as a Sea Lion troll.
That's wonderful too. Thank you for the compliment.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
You're talking nonsense. Species are genetically and physiologically similar because they have a common ancestor. Dinosaurs and birds are genetically and physiologically similar because they have a common ancestor. I'm talking about the history of UCD - history that goes back millions-billions of years.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Why don't science deniers like creationists and flat-earthers produce any scientific breakthroughs? It seems that accepting the science HELPS. Why do you need to believe that all life shares a common ancestor to examine and compare the DNA of humans and other animals?Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
That's the Number One excuse in the anti-science Prayer Book: "I didn't refute your comment because it was off-topic/irrelevant/previously-discussed, etc." If you can refute, refute - and let the admins decide whether you're off-topic.
I didn't refute your comment coz - as usual - it was kinda irrelevant to the discussion. Dredge writes:
Your displays of "scientific knowledge" match your IQ of 9. I understand why you consider my pearls of wisdom and astonishingdisplays of scientific knowledge to be "bs"... Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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... now all you have to do is explain how understanding the measure of DNA separation with UCD has provided a practical use in medicine.
Why? Because you're too lazy and intellectually challenged to research those facts yourself? The scientific consensus, by near unanimous agreement, agrees the fact of the UCD is a linchpin in the evidence of evolution. That's why you hate it so much. And since you're a cracker munchin' catholic with delusions of Genesis poisoning your brain, anything you say on the subject is, entertaining, but ultimately intellectually useless.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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Dredge writes: Why do you need to believe that all life shares a common ancestor to examine and compare the DNA of humans and other animals? A perfect example of why creationism is a science stopper. All Dredge thinks one should do is just measure stuff. Explain it? OH NOOOOO, CAN'T DO THAT!!! Apply the scientific method? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!
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Stile Member Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined:
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Dredge writes: That's right - driving a car doesn't require any knowledge of "nuts and bolts", nor any knowledge of how cars evolved. Absolutely.Thanks for coming around. The point is that nuts and bolts are irrevocably important to the manufacture of vehicles. Understanding this importance leads to greater vehicle technology.The point is that UCD is irrevocably important to those genetic similarities existing. Understanding this importance leads to greater biological/medicinal technology.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
APauling writes:
How is that relevant to the discussion? The scientific consensus, by near unanimous agreement, agrees the fact of the UCD is a linchpin in the evidence of evolution. The development of which treatment of which disease required the acceptance of "the fact of UCD"? Are you saying that, if I get a Covid jab, it won't work bcoz I don't accept "the fact of UCD"?
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