Change in Moderation?

I'm with crash as well....and I am really confused about this...salty posted pure one liner drivel for months and there was not this much Admin attention regarding him....what is so bad about crashfrog? He does not blow up at people nearly as often as I do for example, makes a good effort to address questions and post queries of his own....that not every post is Post of the Month quality could apply to every single one of us regardless of the frequency of our posts. If there is a new guideline regarding frequency of posts this should be clarified...why slap down someone like crashfrog who is genuinely interested in participating here but let people like salty or Syamsu (or the now apparantly returned Fred Williams for that matter) roam free though they clearly have no interest in debate? I can see where SLPx stepped over the line sometimes but crashfrog is more baffling.

I guess I should be booted to...not to mention I was off topic.

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Actually, I surprised there wasn't more protest over the suspension even happening.

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Surprised? I would think overjoyed. Imagine a day where crashfrog, Mr. Hambre, Dan, Darwinsterrier, and myself post nothing...that sounds like the realization of your dream since absolutely everything we post seems to you to be too harsh, too over the top, too funny, to creationist intimidating, too off topic (and in crashfrogs case, too frequent). I mean I can understand that one would appreciate the terse wit and clarity of Stephen ben Yeshua, Syamsu, Willowtree or Skeptik and the wonderful on topic, well researched and referenced, scientific discussions that they bring to the forum but we worthless idiots deserve our say as well don't we?Besides, Dan, Hambre and myself all indicated that if DT was suspended, we should be as well. wj has defended DT and protested your suspending him and I assume most of us agree with wj.Ultimately though, what does it matter what any of us say or think? You have made it abundantly clear that you would prefer is we did not say anything about what we think to each other and certainly not to creationists.

Sorry if I mischaracterized your position. I was referring to post 137 where you indicated that DT was not given a warning before suspension. I was not trying to imply that you thought DT's post in question was of high calibre. I should have made it clear and hopefully this post fixes it.

First, while I don't think the topic needs to be reopened and was meant as satire, I think it is completely appropriate to discuss the involvement of religion in the holocaust. Syamsu is not the only one who brings up the stupid argument that if you accept the
ToE you are a nazi while simultaneously claiming no christians were involved. I have been in arguments on this subject with several people on this board over the last year..Tokyojim comes to mind though at least with TJ it was a more interesting discussion.Second, as Dan pointed out, Syamsu has blatantly broken forum rules in every thread he posts in. He refuses to support his assertions and has even gone so far as to claim he will not read anything relating to the subjects of the threads he is in. His sole intention is to repeat his ignorant claims like a troll. So, since you seem only inclined to threaten Dan, Hambre and myself and let Syamsu get away with anything he wants, what do you suggest? Page is gone. Darwinsterrier is gone. A pretty fair attempt to get crashfrog to leave is still in progress. Do you want us all to stop posting as well and just have the syamsu, Stephen ben Yeshua, ken, lawdog unanswered post forum?Third, this is where the big problem is. I have actually read (hear that Syamsu..some people read) about the eugenics movement and its origins. It would make for a great topic to discuss/debate. I had considered opening a thread to discuss Daniel Kevles most recent book on eugenics. But not with Syamsu posting since it would be a waste of time. He derails every thread he comes into with complete nonsense. According to you, it would be better to let Syamsu do as he pleases, slap the rest of us down, and prevent any discussion on the relevant subjects. Darwinsterrier got suspened without a single warning for one post. Syamsu has multiple threads of inappropriate posts and you want to give him a medal. I don't get it. Maybe I will take Syamsu's advice and "just go away"

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Closing the thread and shaming the participants makes me wonder whether they think Syamsu has good reason to argue the garbage he does, in the manner he does.

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Good point Mr. Hambre.Adminimooseus, if you are not inclined to moderate Syamsu's atrocious behavior and Syamsu has indicated his unwillingness to desist and the specific intention to not support his assertions, it behooves you to support Syamsu's position if you are able. If you are indicating by your moderating only Dan, Hambre, and myself that we have overlooked something of key importance brought up by Syamsu, it is up to you to pick up the thread and argue it since Syamsu is unwilling. If this is not the case please clarify your moderating activities of late since it seems you are merely trying to pick off the people you personally do not like.

If I read the site correctly, you were just banned at Terry's Talk Origins. Perhaps you and/or Percy would like to start a thread comparing Terry's moderating "technique" to EvCs to illustrate to the Boot Campers why EvC is a better and fairer system?

Moose is banned threadUnfortunately the above link is all that I found. Like many things on that site, you have to take Terry's "word" for what has transpired. I was there reading up on John Davisons tirade against me and the "moose is banned" thread caught my eye.Maybe Moose could elaborate on the events?This message has been edited by Admin, 11-29-2004 09:43 AM

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Has anyone ever noticed that most threads at Terry's site are started by...Terry

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With the exception of 1 or 2 non-creationists, most of Terry's site looks like a who's who of creationists that got trounced at EvC...a place to lick their wounds and feel the consoling ignorance of Terry himself. If Terry did not start the threads, there would be no posting at all.