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Trae Member (Idle past 4334 days) Posts: 442 From: Fremont, CA, USA Joined: |
Did they just say that? Anti-post of the Month.
quote: This post packs such a stunning amount of quasi-information into a single paragraph. I found this thread after watching the teaser trailer for 2012 (a disaster film by Rolan Emmerich, of 10,000 BC and The Day After Tomorrow ilk). 2012 is based on (as much as Emmerich ever really bases a film on anything around) the laughable idea that since the Mayan calendar has a cycle, that when this cycle ends so will the world. I realize this may get rejected as a thread. Still I think there is some benefit if only as amusement and so I am suggesting in a sort of anti-post of the month thread that will allow us to share with those here some of the more humorous to scary items we find on the Net. I think this could help give us more casual visitors a reason to return more often. As to place, there isn’t really an entertainment section. Anti-posts of the month would be great. It also might work in Is it Science? Still, not sure something like this is worth people commenting on the merits (or lack) of what we’d be sharing. Edited by Admin, : Change title.
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Admin Director Posts: 13040 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
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AnswersInGenitals Member (Idle past 179 days) Posts: 673 Joined: |
I'm not sure that I see what problem you have with this persons blog post.
The earth, the sun and the milky way aligning with a massive black hole in the center of the milky way.
The earth and the sun DO each align with the black hole at the center of the milky way. As Euclid postulated some years back, any two points determine a straight line. And:
Do you have any idea of how much magnetic force that is going to be sent in to our atmosphere? MILLIONS!!!
Yes, extraterrestrial bodies do create a magnetic force that extends into our atmosphere and can be measured in the MILLIONS.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
The earth, the sun and the milky way aligning with a massive black hole in the center of the milky way. Do you have any idea of how much magnetic force that is going to be sent in to our atmosphere? MILLIONS!!! Yes the earth & sun align with the black hole in the center of the milky way , twice each year to be exact and has been doing this for 4.5 billion years. very simple. ----->/ Earth-----Sun-----Earth-------------//------Blackhole Edited by bluescat48, : picture There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
bluescat48 writes: Yes the earth & sun align with the black hole in the center of the milky way , twice each year to be exact and has been doing this for 4.5 billion years. very simple. ---->/ Earth-----Sun-----Earth-------------//------Blackhole The plane of the Earth's orbit and the galactic plane lie at a 60 degree angle to one another. There is never a time during the year when Sun, Earth and galactic center lie on the same line. --Percy
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
No not on the same plane but still in conjunction.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
bluescat48 writes: No not on the same plane but still in conjunction. Sure, but while your diagram may be somehow hinting at conjunction, to most people it's going to look like a linear arrangement of Sun/Earth/black-hole. A linear arrangement twice a year would truly be a rare and incredible event, but I see now that that's not what you were saying. Concerning conjunction, I 'm worried that the credulous are going to miss the irony in your reply and think you're agreeing with the incredible claim about alignment, which was this:
Message 1 writes: The earth, the sun and the milky way aligning with a massive black hole in the center of the milky way. The irony that the credulous will miss is that every simple planet/sun combination (one sun, planets in mild elliptical orbits) everywhere in the universe is in conjunction with the Milky Way's black hole twice an orbit. --Percy
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3672 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
The irony that the credulous will miss is that every simple planet/sun combination (one sun, planets in mild elliptical orbits) everywhere in the universe is in conjunction with the Milky Way's black hole twice an orbit. For a conjunction/alignment, you will need the plane of the star/planet orbit to include the Milky Way SMBH. In our case, the SMBH lies in Sagittarius (Sag A*), which is close to the ecliptic, so our solar plane does indeed include the SMBH, and we get twice yearly alignments, and annual Sol SMBH conjunctions.
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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
cavediver writes: For a conjunction/alignment, you will need the plane of the star/planet orbit to include the Milky Way SMBH. Bluescat clarified that he meant they're in conjunction, but you're saying that they actually *are* in conjunction/alignment. Not to endorse any of the nonsense, but if the SMBH is indeed in the plane of our ecliptic, then since this should be true of well less than a percent of planetary systems (at 1 degree of resolution) it does seem rather incredible, in the sense of being unlikely, unless there are gravitational effects at work. --Percy
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3672 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
Not to endorse any of the nonsense, but if the SMBH is indeed in the plane of our ecliptic, then since this should be true of well less than a percent of planetary systems Sag A* lies about 5.5 degrees off the ecliptic, so that's 11 degrees out of 180, or about 1 in 16. So nothing exceptionally remarkable, unless you want to use a 10% confidence interval Edited by cavediver, : No reason given.
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3672 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
Just to add some perspective, the moon and sun are both about 30 arcminutes across, so the closest conjuction makes Sag A* and the SMBH about 11 solar diameters from the Sun. Not that impressive, especially if you saw the recent Lunar, Jovian, Venusian conjunction, which was simply breath-taking.
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3672 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
I writes: Not that impressive, especially if you saw the recent Lunar, Jovian, Venusian conjunction, which was simply breath-taking. Any UK guys and gals should pop outside now and take a glimpse at Venus and the Moon looking fantastic - not exactly a conjunction, but a beautiful display none-the-less. Edited by cavediver, : No reason given.
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Go take a picture!
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3672 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
Go take a picture! Sadly, pictures never do this kind of display any justice. The angular size of the Moon is tiny, compared with the present separation of the Moon and Venus. Pictures simply accentuate this disparity. The great thing about seeing this for real is that we can "simultaneously" appreciate the long shot of the two objects sharing the same area of sky, while zooming in on each object to appreciate it in isolation. Sorry, this is certainly not wacky enough for this thread... Err, the human visual system is, err, obvious evidence of design, or something like that... is that ok?
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2134 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Soliton signing out! Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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