Incest and Adam and Eve

The Bible says:"Do not dishonor your father by haveing sexual relations with your mother; do not have relations with her" Leviticus 18:7

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"Do not have sexual relations with your sister, either your father's daughter or your mother's daughter" Leviticus 18:9If this is true then why did God create JUST Adam and Eve. By doing this they would have no choice but to commit incest which is strictly prohibited in the bible. How is this possible?At first I thought Noah and his family would have to violate the incest laws in the bible. However considering that Noah brought his own wife plus his 3 sons and their wives it does not. There is no law in the Bible (that I can find) that prohibits marriage/sex with your cousin. So theoretically Noah's grandchildren could have intermarried and produced children without violating God's laws.Anyone have thoughts on any of these ideas?

When does the Torah say that these strict prohibitions took effect? Did you take the time to read Leviticus 18:3, or were you simply combing the bible for things to ridicule?

First, I don't know when they took effect. I do know they were given to Moses after the exodus from Egypt. What is the difference when they were given though? If its wrong then its wrong, it shouldn' matter when the act takes place. Cain killed Abel before God had said not to murder yet this was wrong wasn't it? (Please correct me if God gave a law before this happened)No, in fact I'm not trying to ridicule the Bible at all. What I'm trying to do is find the truth. Perhaps I'm misenterpretting the passages and their relationship to Adam and Eve.Please Consequent let me know what you think of this. Honestly, I want your opinon - I'm not trying to ridicule Christianity

Manning writes:

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If this is true then why did God create JUST Adam and Eve. By doing this they would have no choice but to commit incest which is strictly prohibited in the bible. How is this possible?

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You need to read further in Genesis (6:2). It appears that there were other people around other than Adam and Eve. They weren't human, but apparently they were fertile with humans. In fact, it was because of this interbreeding that god decided to send the deluge.Of course, this doesn't quite explain where Cain's wife came from because Gen 6:2 specifically talks about the sons of god mating with the daughters of man.------------------
Rrhain
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I think that the Tanakh is a remarkable document conflating societal guidelines with sociomorphic myth and political propaganda.

Cain’s Wife | Answers in Genesis Providing this link works it may help you with what you want to know.

forget about cain's wife, try to figure out who Joseph's ( thats jesus's step daddy) father is. look at mathew 1:16 then look at luke 3:23 what the hell people?[This message has been edited by CygnusX, 12-07-2003]

Forget Joseph's daddy, this thread is about 'Incest and Adam and Eve'.If you want to discuss your own topic then open another thread, or search through the archives as I am sure there are a few posts related to this.Please keep on topic, thank you!AdminBrian.

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Providing this link works it may help you with what you want to know.

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The problem is that it assumes facts not in evidence.Indeed, the Bible does say that Adam had sons and daughters. However, it only talks about them after Cain had left.And it essentially handwaves the prohibition against incest. Yeah, marrying between siblings was against god's law, but since it would have had to have happened at the beginning since all humanity is directly descended from Adam and Eve, then it wasn't a sin at the time.Very much like Nixon's claim that "If the President does it, it can't be illegal," AiG's answer is that if certain holy members of the Bible commit a sin, it isn't really a sin.------------------
Rrhain
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You're assuming that Adam and Eve are blood relatives. Since they are "created" rather than concieved they have no parents and thus may not have been related to each other.

...but all their sons and daughters have
Adam as father and Eve as mother, and so would be
prohibited from inter-breeding....there's nothing in that law to stop Adam I suppose,
but no-one else ... sounds very Apey to me.

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You're assuming that Adam and Eve are blood relatives.

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Eve was created from Adam's rib. How could she not be a blood relative? Every single gene she has must necessarily come from him. She isn't a clone (since she's female and he's male), but all her genetic material is pulled from his.------------------
Rrhain
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Well, the laws spoken of in Leviticus were not there in the time of Noah. Incest was not wrong at one time because it was the only way to do it. At one time incest HAD to happen.
This subject interests me because I'm wondering if anyone is thinking about mutations,Lol. It's not my subject but haven't you asked yourself why there were no deformities mentioned at the time of Noah concerning incest?
But ofcourse, in the time of Moses it would have been more necessary for laws against incest. Do remember they were not aware of Moses' activities on mount Sinai at this time. So how could they go against a law God had not yet put in place. Ofcourse it was obviously NOT wrong THEN. Incest is a modern term, but if I am correct about the reasons I have divulged I suspect 'incest' was not a problem at one time (deformity). Ofcourse we all think this is a disgusting concept(incest) but I ask again what was the alternative at that time?If God doesn't mention it in the garden it wasn't an immediate 'problem' to God. Ofcourse laws were not yet in place because the fulness of man's sins had not yet come to pass, and we can see through Genesis, Exodus and even Leviticus just how 'Holy' man has to be for God to come down upon the Tabernacle, so the implications are obvious. But you'll have to read the three books for a better understanding. - I've just completed the trilogy, and I have a much better understanding.[This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 12-23-2003]

"It appears that there were other people around other than Adam and Eve. They weren't human, but apparently they were fertile with humans. In fact, it was because of this interbreeding that god decided to send the deluge."So it's a choice between incest and beastiality?

Rrhain wrote: Every single gene she has must necessarily come from him.Which from a scientific point of view is interesting. There is mounting evidence that shows the developing fetus is female by default. I'm not too sure what kind of evolutionary hoops would have to be overcome if one began with the starting point as 1) Adam and Eve are the first humanoids and 2) first Adam then Eve.As a weak response to Manning: I have heard some opinions that Adam and Eve were the first versions of who we are today and that basically the idea of a "superior race" came into effect. However, I don't have a specific source to site you, sorry.------------------
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