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Author Topic:   Partial Birth Abortion
crashfrog
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Message 7 of 39 (116285)
06-18-2004 2:49 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by custard
06-17-2004 12:09 AM


C'mon Jar! That's a cop out.
Gosh, you don't think that's doing this subject a bit of a disservice?
The fact that we go round and round on this topic is pretty conclusive evidence that it's a fuckin' complex issue. I hardly think it's fair to expect Jar to translate that into the finite set of platitiudes you're asking for.
The position of a moral relativist is that many moral situations are too complicated to be represented by a short list of generalities. You do Jar and the topic a disservice, I feel, by suggesting that it's a "cop-out" to recognize that.

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crashfrog
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Message 9 of 39 (116293)
06-18-2004 3:21 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by custard
06-18-2004 2:52 AM


You wouldn't have a problem with someone aborting an 8-month-old fetus if the woman could find a doctor to agree to perform the abortion? Wow.
Well, it can sometimes take up to 3 months to find out you're pregnant. Add another two weeks of soul-searching and a few more months to actually arrange the abortion - as many states don't have the facilities or trained personnel to perform and abortion after the first trimester - and you could easily be at the 8-month line before an abortion can finally be performed.

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crashfrog
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Message 13 of 39 (116298)
06-18-2004 3:33 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by MexicanHotChocolate
06-18-2004 3:25 AM


The most sickening spectacle in the news of late was the canonization of the woman who chose to die in child birth rather than have an abortion.
Yeah, no shit. What a great message the Catholic Church sent: "Dear women: you have no worth except as a vessel for the unborn."

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crashfrog
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Message 15 of 39 (116326)
06-18-2004 5:08 AM
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06-18-2004 4:51 AM


Crashfrog's 'you could be 8 months in before you decide' scenario is pretty rare
That's a pretty severe misstatement of my post, I have to say.
Since you missed it, the woman in the scenario I proposed actually decided to have the abortion 3 1/2 months into the pregnancy. The rest of the time is often how long it takes for a low-income person to locate a doctor who can perform the procedure and raise the cash to travel to the location and pay for it.

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