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Nighttrain
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Message 124 of 226 (260110)
11-16-2005 1:11 AM
Reply to: Message 120 by ohnhai
11-16-2005 12:24 AM


Re: soviets were atheists
Piggy-backing on Ohnhai,
The Queen is the legal and constitutional head of Australia and all laws have to be rubber-stamped by her rep., the Governor-General. But, as I`ve pointed out elsewhere, she never rings, she never writes----.
We have attempted to turn Oz into a republic, but too many toadies hang out for either a knighthood, or a telegram from the Queen when they turn 100 y.o. While our laws incorporate devices like Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights from way back,and we signed the U.N. Declaration of Human Rights,our politicians ignore the U.N. rules when it suits their purpose. We haven`t managed to frame a current Bill of Rights, and our Constitution is so rigid, it enables political parties to work all manner of dodges. While we have English common law, it ain`t worth a hill of beans when you front up to a judge.

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Nighttrain
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From: brisbane,australia
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Message 163 of 226 (260448)
11-17-2005 1:29 AM
Reply to: Message 159 by Minnemooseus
11-17-2005 12:04 AM


Re: OK - Call it "Why not by the church, outside of the standard religious services"
It probably would take a very honest organization (church or otherwise) to accurately self-present it's history, ugly warts and all.
By the time the apologetic spin-doctors get through, Moose, you wouldn`t recognise it. I bet the massacres, torture and burnings get the red pencil. Even more likely to get the chop are the unanswered prayers of the faithful. Let`s take the three MAIN rat plagues.
540 A.D.+ Byzantium--10,000 died each day at the height of the plague in the capital, 100 million throughout the empire.
1348 A.D.+ The Black Death--more than 25 million in Europe, half the population of Italy alone.
1900+ (officially ended in 1949, though there were 100,000 cases reported worldwide in the decade up to 1974)--figures still being assessed though Western countries tended to escape the worst of it due to better rat/hygiene control.(More Cunning than Man--Robert Hendrickson)
There were many minor outbreaks including the one that decimated the fourth Crusade.
Wonder how many Christians sent up a prayer for help before they died in agony? Will this be part of the history of Christianity? Or will it concentrate on 'tickling the ears'?

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