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Politically, I would say that I am a moderate. Conservatives lean towards Fascism while Liberals lean towards communism/socialism. All told, I would rather be a commie than a nazi. Idealistically, that is, for the fact remains that I was raised in a capitalist free market country which has pampered me and teased me.

While I agree with your first staetement, I dont agree with saying that the left is closer to communism/socialism, it implies that the two are closely related. Infact, socialisim has evolved much since the days of marx.

I like the philosophy in the sense of Democratic Socialism.

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

Democratic socialists have normally defended the role of the public sector, particularly as regards the provision of key services such as health care, education, utilities, mass transit, and sometimes also banking, mining, and fuel extraction. However, their economic vision has often included a mixed economy with a greater emphasis on worker and consumer co-operatives, credit unions, family farms and small businesses, as compared to authoritarian Marxist-Leninists. In India, democratic socialists have to varying degrees seen the traditional village-based peasant economy as a model to be supported and enhanced.

It could be argued that the reason you are paid well is do to socialist principals. If you read about the Labor movement in the early 1900's up to the 1930's you will see what workers like yourself had to go thrugh just to earn minimum wage and have a 40hr work week!

There was litterely fighting in the streets. People lost their lives just to make a fraction of what you make now. The quality of life you, and many of us today, enjoy is due to the struggles of labour in this country.

Basicaly the idea of democratic socialism is "ya your rich, and Im poor, but my society will make sure that neither of us are treated like dogs by guaranteeing the both of us a good quality of life."

I don't see Democratic Socialisim as a rejection of capitalisim but rather an upgrade to it

enugh of that...

The problem is, so much more has been promised to me that will never occur. Bush is lying to us this minute about social security.

Why can't they just tell the American middle class that our days of ease are waning?

This is easy, they want to quietly sneak us back to the Charles Dickens era. Basicaly undo all the socialy progressive achivemnts of the last 100 years.

After all, if they do that, the rich can get richer and the poor can get screwd.

This message has been edited by Yaro, 03-27-2005 09:20 AM

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