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Author Topic:   Is "Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice" a porn movie?
BobAliceEve
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From: Seattle, WA, USA
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Message 11 of 32 (340735)
08-17-2006 5:52 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by MangyTiger
07-26-2006 10:46 AM


Thank you all for your feedback
It is always appreciated. I guess we will have to disagree on this though I can not see why an R/X rating for a movie about sexual relationships would not be sufficient to make it porn in at least intent. Possibly, we can agree that B&C&T&A is soft-porn?
My very best regards to all,
Bob, Alice, and Eve

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BobAliceEve
Member (Idle past 5425 days)
Posts: 107
From: Seattle, WA, USA
Joined: 02-03-2004


Message 22 of 32 (341009)
08-18-2006 6:50 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by MangyTiger
07-26-2006 10:46 AM


Do I need this? I hope not.
Hi....
I received an anonymous tip that my name was being abused here so I came to set the record straight.
My relationship with the person who owns this ID is purely professional. In fact, one could report that our relationship is all "What about Bob" and no "Bob and...Alice". I am said person's shrink.
Said person has been diagnosed as paranoid and a little delusional. Said person has a character defect of becoming too attatched to too few people. Eve is a figment of said person's imagination.
Said person occasionally sends me emails I can not read. I am not sure what that is all about but said person says that the emails are cryptic and would I please get and use the key. I reply that I have no use for the key as I will not come to said person's house - even to find out what the email says.
Said person has told me a about friends here and, while I don't recommend "cyberspace" as a residence, it is good to know that said person is interacting with other (apparently) living people. You might be good for said person.
Please do not reply to this post (as it seems to be called) as I do not want said person to know I spoke to you about our relationship (doctor/patient relationship you know). In our most recent hour together it was disclosed that several projects lie ahead for said person so my message to you will probably pass unnoticed if you do not reply.
Most Sincerely,
Alice (Phd, MSW, etc)

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BobAliceEve
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From: Seattle, WA, USA
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Message 25 of 32 (341326)
08-19-2006 9:08 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by MangyTiger
07-26-2006 10:46 AM


Well, I too want to set the record straight!
"Bob" is not delusional - I do exist. And he is not paranoid - I AM trying to read his encrypted email (not because I want to but because that is my role in life). And he and I do not have any relationship beyond this.
Alice is so un-tech that she calls encrypted cryptic. I gave her his password and account just so she would do something stupid like this so that "Bob" will realize who his real enemy is.
Happy decrypting,
Eve

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BobAliceEve
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From: Seattle, WA, USA
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Message 30 of 32 (341708)
08-20-2006 8:59 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by MangyTiger
07-26-2006 10:46 AM


crashfrog writes:
I, too, saw BCT&A when it first came out. It's about a couple who decides that having affairs is good for their marriage, and they try to encourage another couple to engage in wife-swapping. There is no nudity and no bad language.
Thank you for agreeing that the movie is about affairs and encourages wife-swapping.
crashfrog writes:
Um, maybe because it's possible to explore sexual relationships in a work without the intent being to cause someone to masturbate? By your definition, Romeo and Juliet is porn; Othello is porn.
Sorry but no. I have seen both "Otello" (the spelling here is taken directly from a poster I have on my wall) and "Romeo and Juliet" a few times and there is nothing R about either.
crashfrog writes:
Before climbing into bed the girls walk around for a bit in underwear that is more like bathing suits, and that's about as good (or bad, depending upon your perspective) as it gets.
It was titillating in 1969 and rated R.
Nothing R about "Otello", "Romeo and Juliet", or the statues in the other thread - in any age. And the question is not good or bad - it is good or evil.
jar writes:
It's certainly a satire, by the way, one that actually champions fidelity.
This contradicts crashfrog. Fidelity is the opposite of affairs and wife-swapping. Who can one trust?
belfry writes:
any work that features extramarital affairs qualifies as porn? Does that include the story of David and Bathsheba?
Again, thank you for agreeing that this is about extramarital affairs.
I am not saying that any work that features extramarital affairs qualifies as porn. The story of David and Bathsheba is 1) history and 2) does not promote (vs simply feature) extramarital affairs. B&C&T&A is 1) not history and 2) does promote (vs simply feature) extramarital affairs.
Extramarital affairs are called adultry in the Book where the history of David and Bathsheba is reported. And adultry is condemmed (vs promoted) in that same Book. Wifeswapping is far worse an activity to promote (vs historically report) because it implies ownership of a female (sexual slavery) on top of adultry.
You may continue to "call good evil and evil good" if you wish and therby promote evil. As far as I can tell, however, "{I} was endowed by {my} Creator (the author of the Book mentioned above) with certain inalienable rights" including the "liberty" to both exist in the context of and promote my Creator's definition of good. If porn is the incorrect label for this movie then it is because the movie's intent is worse than simply sexual stimulation. And I find being placed in that context discusting. Possibly, one of you would be willing to offer an adjective that conveys this thought? If so, I will use it instead of porn.
Very best regards to all,
Bob and Alice and Eve

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