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lfen Member (Idle past 4706 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
How do the demons know the name Jesus? Wasn't his real name Yeshua, however that is pronounced in Hebrew?
Buz, I've had some very untypical very vivid dreams also and they seemed to occur when I was very tired often having gone without much sleep for a spell. They are real dreams of course but that is neurological activity of a fatigued brain how does that equate to "demons are real"? Your story clearly makes the point that demons are something we dream up! lfen
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lfen Member (Idle past 4706 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
Not long after my experience which I shared in this thread I met a Penticostle missionary who shared with me a dream encounter he had with evil spirits. I won't go into the whole thing, except to say that he turned his back on the demons to flee into his house and they overpowered him before he woke up. Buz, If he was relating this to you he must have awakened. What you and he had are called "bad dreams", "nightmares". If a young child wakes up frightened because he was being chased by a wolf in his dreams I don't tell him that dream wolves are very dangerous! It turns out these demons you believe in are only bad dreams, fantasies, imagination. You wake up and they evaporate. Yes, nightmares are frightening. I didn't enjoy mine, but they aren't real! sheeeessh lfen
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lfen Member (Idle past 4706 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
Well, I've had some unique dreams to but dreams are personal subjective so maybe we can't communicate them. I go years perhaps decades without a nightmare. But the one I remember was terrifying but once awake I was fine.
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lfen Member (Idle past 4706 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
I went through a lucid dreaming period also and they were fun. I think it was partly because I was younger and sleeping more irregularly. Often the most intense dreams came during a period of not getting much sleep. Living a more regular life may be part of it and it may be age related also. I miss walking on air and then taking off and flying through the night.
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lfen Member (Idle past 4706 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
Nightmares are accompanied by all the responses of fright, terror, etc. You can awaken to find your heart pounding and be in a cold sweat. That is the nature of dreams and I suppose for much of human history these vivid dreams seemed real. I think they tell something about stress and fears. We dream every night but most people have nightmares only rarely. I see no need to use demons as an explanation of dreams.
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lfen Member (Idle past 4706 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
I don't see any evidence for "supernatural" events here. Rather this is testimony to broad range of functions of the brain and of ways anxiety and rage manifest. It does sound like Christianity has resulted in you changing your cognitions in a positive way and that is all to the good and I'm glad you are happier.
People can get into very dark mental/emotional beliefs and there lives become chaotic and painful as a result, but that is not evidence of other non material beings. It was all happening in your mind by your beliefs. I will cite the belief in alien abduction often facilitated by hypnosis or various regressive inductions and the various phenomena associated with hysteria. This gives evidence of the behaviour, states, and brain, but there have been no documented other beings involved in this. lfen
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lfen Member (Idle past 4706 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
the Kreskin bag of bullshit cold reading level of trickery Hey, Kreskin was Amazing! It's been decades since I watched him on t.v. But he amazed me back then. I never figured out how he did it! lfen
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lfen Member (Idle past 4706 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
Get me his name and unit and I'll be glad to find out for you if he's telling the truth or just blowing smoke. Jar That statement woke me up. What kind of connections do you have? lfen
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lfen Member (Idle past 4706 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
He is now a devout Christian, when once neither the guards nor the inmates could bear to be around him. He maybe, but "jailhouse conversions" often have ulterior motives. I would expect, or at least hope, that if his conversion was genuine he would come clean on his crimes and any accomplices for the sake of the families of the slain. Ted Bundy manipulated a Christian for mutual advantages but his conversion can't have been genuine as he didn't make a clean complete confession of his crimes leaving some families to never know what happened to their loved ones. Sociopathic personalites show up in the ranks of Bible and faith healing con artists. My understanding of this condition is that it is beyond repair and any conversion is fained for advantages. lfen
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lfen Member (Idle past 4706 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
Buz,
"Aware" is probably not the word I would use as I tend to use it to refer to things I have sensory experience of. It's been at least a decade since I read books on both Bundy and Son of Sam, and I've not the best memory so would have to re research both of them. One book I read felt that the Son of Sam had been part of a shadowy satanic group and had been intimidated into taking the fall. Now the police investigation brought nothing of that to the trial and it is just as feasible he acted alone but there were questions. I read a book by two investigators who did a series of interviews with Bundy when he was on death row, I believe that was in Florida. There were a some disappearances that would have fit with Bundy. It was my understanding that Ted claimed he had additional information but with held it hoping that his sentence would be at least postponed if not commuted. As I said it's been a long time but my recall is that Ted went to his death and never divulged all his information. The picture I have of Ted was that he was engaging in sociopathic manipulations to the very end. So I'm not "aware" but did read some well regarded books that he died leaving some families in the dark about their missing children. My library may still have the book. It's frustrating that between out right theft and simply abuse, or books that are poorly made I can't always return years later and find a book. I did an online seach of my library and found this book that may have been the one only I thought it was by 2 authors, however it could have been another book that has sinced been removed by theft or damage from circulation.
quote: I will agree with you that there are some genuine conversions and others conversions of convenience. lfen
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lfen Member (Idle past 4706 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
Buz,
Here is a link that gives a digest of the Son of Sam case. Seems I had misremembered. Berkowitz himself told of the satanic cult and this article states that investigation has not been closed. Home - CARPENOCTEM lfen
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lfen Member (Idle past 4706 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
Sas,
Thank you, for a truly informative post. I'd like to ask if this is purely an agency problem with the FDA, or are there executive or legislative problems? That is can congress make changes? The President? or is up to the head of the FDA? I'm just wondering if and how the system could be changed? lfen
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