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Author Topic:   Where are the left wingers, I ask?
nator
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Message 1 of 50 (417668)
08-23-2007 6:59 PM


Many conservatives come on to this board talking about "The Leftists" and "The Far Left" in American politics. Often, they point to people Like Senator Clinton and John Edwards to illustrate the "left-leaning" nature of the Democratic party, and Dennis Kucinich is completely dismissed as a "radical" on the left. Words like "Marxist" has even been bandied about on occasion by posters like Faith.
I am sure you are all aware of the Political Compass website, as it has made the rounds several times on this site and lots of us have completed the questions and seen where we fall on the spectrum.
The following is a view of the ideological category of each of the presidential candidates based upon their expressed campaign platform and their own publically-stated political views.
These results, you must remember, are based upon the worldwide political spectrum.
Here, Clinton and Edwards are considered by many to be left-leaning Liberals, but compared to the rest of the world, they are firmly in the Authoritarian Right Wing conservative category, perhaps slightly libertarian.
Gravel and Kucinich are slightly left-leaning Libertarians, compared to the rest of the world.
I am not surprised, since I am well-aware that the US is an extremely conservative place politically and has been slipping closer to Authoritarianism and Fascism in recent decades, but I wonder how many of our conservative members are equally surprised?
They may be, but not for the same reasons I am, I'll wager.
AbE: Just did the test again.
I am a left-leaning Libertarian.
Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.31
Apparently, I score very close to the Dalai Lama.
Cool.
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nator
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From: Ann Arbor
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Message 9 of 50 (417684)
08-23-2007 8:22 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by jar
08-23-2007 7:39 PM


quote:
Kinda where I always seem to fall, still in the 9 ring.
So why the hell were you ever a Republican, jar?

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nator
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Message 31 of 50 (418024)
08-25-2007 10:33 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Buzsaw
08-24-2007 6:37 PM


Re: Left Opposite Of Right
quote:
The alleged left wingers are the folks opposite the alleged right wingers in the political arena.
Right.
...and every single one of the candidates for the US presidency is a conservative right winger.
Oh, except for Kucinich and Gravel. They are moderate liberals leaning towards Libertarianism.

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nator
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Message 32 of 50 (418025)
08-25-2007 10:41 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by anastasia
08-24-2007 11:32 PM


quote:
I got a -3.38
and a -2.10.
What the heck does that mean? All the rest of you seem to have 6's or 8's. Help!
It means you are Left-leaning and Libertarian, but very close to the center. More socially and economically conservative than those who got -6's and -8's.

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nator
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Message 37 of 50 (418280)
08-27-2007 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by New Cat's Eye
08-26-2007 1:16 PM


So, CS, care to comment on the OP?
I'm not sure what you thought about how right-leaning the US is compared to the rest of the world, but does it surprise you, as a conservative, to see Clinton and Edwards and Obama right up there in the conservative right quadrant?

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