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Author Topic:   Read anything by God or Darwin lately?
Stile
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Message 27 of 35 (506896)
04-30-2009 8:16 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Straggler
04-26-2009 2:21 PM


What's the goal?
Straggler writes:
How may EvC members have read Charles Darwin's "On The Origin of the Species"?
Not me.
How many have read the bible?
Not cover-to-cover, that's for sure. I know all the stories though, OT and NT. But I couldn't quote a passage to save my life.
Anyway...Have EvC members whether atheist, "evolutionist", theist, creationist or whatever actually read either or both of these books?
Without getting into specifics, I'd dump myself into the atheist/"evolutionist" area.
Do they consider it important as to whether or not they have actually read these books?
Does it matter and if so/not why so/not?
No, I don't consider it important. But I'm not here to debate either evolution or creationism or religion in general. If that was what I was here for, then I would think it would be more important. I'm here to learn if what I think (and how I think it) is rational, defendable and reasonable. Or even if such a goal is something to strive for in the first place.
I tend to stay away from the main evolution vs. creationism topics. Things like Bible Study, Biological Evolution, Dates and Dating, Origin of Life... aren't really "my forums." I do read them to learn what I can and I find the knowledge interesting on a "the more you know" kind of level, but I rarely poke my posting nose in because, well, I don't really care To me, the non-debate is so overwhelmingly obvious that to argue over it is just... boring (to me personally, no offense to those who enjoy such things). I must admit though, the threads can get interesting on an entertainment level when newbies come in and "blow away the competition with their new-found knowledge."
I like the Faith & Belief or Social Issues or Miscellaneous Topic forums the best. I like to discuss things leaning towards the epistomological (is that the word?) level:
-Why do people think the way they do?
-What "other ideas" do people have and why do they think they are valid?
-Are the ideas that I think about valid?
-Is there even a dependable (or best possible) scale of validity to use?
-How can something be so "obviously true" to one person and not to others?
-Is the verifiability of information really that important?
-Is internal consistency important?
-Can our strong feelings for certain areas of information make it impossible for us to see internal inconsistencies?
-Is religion really the only or best way to achieve the generally-claimed benefits (inner peace/comfort/safety, afterlife, happiness, personal-betterment)?
-Do the people who claim to know absolute truth about things actually know anything about those things?
Questioning people about such things isn't exactly polite conversation in day-to-day activities. Most people don't appreciate having their thought-process questioned, they like to assume that such things are perfect perhaps? Whatever the reason, this is a nice place where I can be mostly-sure that such questioning can be expected, or at least should be.
Those are the kinds of questions that focus me towards the topics I find most interesting. And they do not really rely on a knowledge of the Bible or Darwin's book or any text... it's more of an internal, personal quest for "knowing oneself."

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