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Rrhain
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Message 23 of 39 (410715)
07-16-2007 11:13 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by kuresu
07-16-2007 1:51 PM


Re: All About EvC
kuresu responds to Phat:
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Of all the animals, why are humans the only animal that wears clothes?
Phat, what do you think a fur coat is? A better question to ask would be:
Why are humans the only ones that have to make their own clothing (as distinguished from growing their own clothing).
Neither of those statements are true. Other animals do wear clothing (hermit crabs) and make their own (there are some insects that glue things like rocks to themselves in order to protect themselves.)
There really isn't anything that humans do that other animals don't also do. We may do it differently, more efficiently, etc., but that doesn't make us unique.

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Rrhain
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Message 25 of 39 (410718)
07-16-2007 11:53 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Phat
07-16-2007 11:32 PM


Re: All About EvC
Phat writes:
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I was merely wondering why humans are so unique from other animals
But we're not. There is nothing that humans do that other animals don't also do. While humans are unique (in that humans aren't some other type of animal), that uniqueness comes about due to degree, not kind.

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

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Rrhain
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Message 29 of 39 (410917)
07-17-2007 11:07 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Phat
07-17-2007 12:16 AM


Re: All About EvC
Phat responds to me:
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So humans are not that unique, eh?
Nope. It seems that you glossed over the "degree, not kind" part of the argument, as you are about to get bogged down in details rather than concepts.
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You must admit that we have accomplished many tasks that any ordinary animal could never do.
And thus, you prove my point. You are confusing the specific outcome with the underlying process. By your logic, modern humans are unique compared to ancient humans since only modern humans made the Internet and if we could somehow transport ancient humanity to the present day and provide them with the same materials and training, they would never be able to do so.
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Internet
Actually, animals have communication networks. The dance of bees, for example.
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Engineering
Spiders, wasps, bees, termites, nesting birds, chimpanzees, orangutangs, etc.
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medicine
Bees and some apes.
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buildings
This is the same as "engineering," so the list is quite similar: Spiders, bees, wasps, termites, nesting birds, chimpanzees, orangutangs, etc.
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writing
Ants.
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electronics
Birds and insects follow electromagnetic fields as do sharks and some fish use electricity directly.
Again, you're confusing degree with kind.

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