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Damouse
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From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
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Message 106 of 110 (317314)
06-03-2006 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by nwr
06-03-2006 5:44 PM


Re: Christian Nationalism
Christianity means putting Christ first, Nationalism means putting ones nation first, how can one do both?
Because you would have to have a christian nation. Quite a scary thing to do with america, simply because of what you would have to do to get everyone to be christian.

-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses

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Damouse
Member (Idle past 4933 days)
Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 109 of 110 (318020)
06-05-2006 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by Rob
06-04-2006 11:01 AM


a post with a hint of... christian brainwashing?
So all the goos you do in your life Rob, all of it, is because you believe in a man who lived 2000 years ago and whose piety has been voted on? You do not have the morality to make the decisions for yourself, you must trust an entity that may not even be there? The Bible was written by men buddy, not by the divine hand of God. Atheists are painted as godless and immoral, and yet we can make the right decisions without the help of Jesus?! WHAT?!
My father equates "god morals" to the use of children's math problems. you give a simple question like 3+4 and instead of answering it, you draw out the apples and cross out three from the group of four. This is what you're doing.
What does it do, cleanse your consciousness? The Devil got me into this, but with the help of god i shall prevail? What an interesting situation! Why not I got myself into this, and I will get myself out! "You can take whatever you want, but you will always have to pay for it" is a splendid rule of thumb. A philosopher said that we created god because we were lonely. I see how this situation could have come about...
But alas, my post and the bottom 3/4 of yours is quite off-topic. Back to reality: I agree with you in that it is not the christians place or form to punish the sinners, as you say. You do , however say, that it is their goal, as it was jesus' to show us the truth, and not let us "wallow in abstractions". I disagree here. Every person who does something evil, ever non-insane malfactor KNOWS that they're commiting evil, for sure. Theres no questions of morals. You cannot say "he didn't know better!" in the defence of a rapist.
As to "Man" being the problem, thats all fine and dandy, but there are bigger fish to fry. You say not to point a finger, but it doesn't change the fact that the society that we call good juxtaposed by what we call evil is a lot better off then some. Entitys outside our collective "1st world countries" or even groups within merit the name "evil". Collectively, it would benefit everyone if they were gone, and that has nothing to do with our inner selves.
Just a little finisher, tying the beggining to the end.
Words are the most powerful things we possess and we should use them with a respect for their ability to send shock waves of ideas into the sea of mankind.
I disagree here completly. Words are meningless; history is molded by actions. Did jesus' preachings stop stoning, crucifixion, ect? On a wider scale, did it stop war? That is what you do up top. you talk. Talk is quite cheap, in a position of life and death talk and faith in god will does nothing; action saves lives.
Edited by Damouse, : sp

-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses

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