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Author Topic:   What you see with your own eyes vs what scientists claim
molbiogirl
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Message 133 of 165 (447975)
01-11-2008 2:47 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by sinequanon
01-11-2008 2:36 PM


You've been asked before and have yet to answer, but here goes nothing.
What I see with my own eyes tells me that learned and evolved behaviours are NOT the only options for behaviour.
What are the other options?

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molbiogirl
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Message 140 of 165 (448004)
01-11-2008 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by sinequanon
01-11-2008 3:38 PM


iii) Change of diet cause by eradication of habitat at some point in history.
If the change happened in the past, how was it transmitted to present day populations if not by evolution?
Also. You have insisted that behavioral changes are not due to evolution or learning for ALL species. Not just crows.
Are you suggesting that all behavioral changes for all species are, at root, dietary?

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molbiogirl
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Message 147 of 165 (448050)
01-11-2008 7:52 PM
Reply to: Message 145 by Percy
01-11-2008 6:57 PM


Percy,
I think each of the topics Sin has introduced (including this one) is an excuse to get to this: There is no evolved or learned behavior.
Much like tesla (only his hobbyhorse is "existence").
When pressed to offer an alternative, he came up with "chemicals".
How he could possibly think "chemicals" are the source of all evolution is beyond me. But there you have it.
Edited by molbiogirl, : No reason given.

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molbiogirl
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Message 149 of 165 (448072)
01-11-2008 8:51 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by nwr
01-11-2008 8:03 PM


I'm not at all sure that is correct. After all, he does have a topic on spider intelligence, and it seems to me that he is arguing there for the ability of the spider to learn.
Nope. Not once has the man used the word "learn". (Just did a search.)
However, to be certain, I will ask him directly:
Sin, is spider behavior (1) evolved (2) learned (3) other?

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molbiogirl
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Message 153 of 165 (448134)
01-12-2008 8:45 AM
Reply to: Message 152 by sinequanon
01-12-2008 6:17 AM


When the going gets tough...
...the tough get going. To another thread!
It finally dawned on me this morning that when cornered, you, for all intents and purposes, abandon the thread and start a new one.
Spiders are intelligent. 12/30-01/07.
Your own eyes. 01/07-01/12.
It's like clockwork.
Message 1.
I'm taking bets.
How many days until Sin's real agenda is revealed (there is no such thing as evolution) and he starts a new thread?
My money's on 01/18.

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