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Taz
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Message 12 of 151 (416995)
08-18-2007 11:53 PM


Conspiracy theorists
The academic world has given such a negative social stigma to the words "conspiracy theory" and "conspiracy theorist" that it only requires a simple accusation of one being a conspiracy theorist to discredit the person. I'm not saying that that is the case here. What I am saying is we should not use the words "conspiracy theory" and "conspiracy theorist" so liberally.
We now return to our regular broadcast.

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Message 24 of 151 (417139)
08-19-2007 5:34 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Chiroptera
08-19-2007 4:59 PM


Hey, don't drag me into this. I know nothing about Collapsing-Building Mechanics.

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Taz
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Message 125 of 151 (462261)
04-02-2008 1:15 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by randman
04-02-2008 1:04 AM


Not meaning to barge in between you two, but I have to respond to this.
randman writes:
The power problem is an interesting one, probably for another thread. There is power all around us all the time, massive amounts of power in fact.
Yes, there are massive sources of potential energy all around us. The problem is how to convert these potential energy sources into usable forms of energy. Technically speaking, the monitor you are reading this message from contains enough energy to destroy the city you are living in. Just send a few anti-matter its way and BOOM!
But you see, things are not that simple. Tapping into these sources of "free" energy is the real challenge. If it were that simple, I'm sure someone would have figured out a way to exploit all the free potential energy all around us without having to resort to fossil fuel.
Actually, now that I think about it, people did figure out a way to tap into these free sources of energy. It's called slavery if you know what I mean.
Actually, I am thinking of microwave. It does vibrate the water molecules, and I am sure can be made lethal quite easily.
I saw you said earlier that microwave could be used for crowd control. How exactly does this work? Are you suggesting we cook an angry crowd alive as a method of crowd control? Haha, not to sound sadistic, but that part actually gave me an amusing mental image.
The military does engage close range in urban warfare making these weapons useful.
Hahaha. Ya, and the 5 ton battery they have to carry along to power these weapons...

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Taz
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Message 128 of 151 (462266)
04-02-2008 1:30 AM
Reply to: Message 127 by randman
04-02-2008 1:23 AM


The straight out reality is we are no where near the technological level for these lazer and microwave handheld weapons to be of any practical use. The best thing we have right now is a stunt gun that shoots out a projectile carrying a high yield charge to bring down a person. Energy based weapons consume a ridiculous amount of energy that they would probably require mini-nuclear power generators attached to their rear ends. If it were that simple, we would have done away with projectile weaponry already.
But to be fair, can you give me a few links to these wondrous weapons you are speaking of?

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Taz
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Message 130 of 151 (462268)
04-02-2008 1:52 AM
Reply to: Message 129 by randman
04-02-2008 1:39 AM


Off-topic content deleted by moi. I'll stop now.
Nevermind, too itchy.
randman writes:
It's weird because this is common knowledge among anyone following these sorts of things. It's been widely publicized and anyone can see these articles by simply googling it up.
I never denied that these weapons were not possible. You were the one that said these could be used in close combat urban areas. That's impractical. Notice how big these "vehicle" weapons are. Notice that they have not actually deployed them at all. It sounds to me like they are running into the same problem with the lazer technology 2 decades ago. There was a big hype about it back then. People were even talking about deploying these lazer weapons as a defense against close range missile as well as ICBM attacks. Guess what, they ran into the same problem that I've been trying to point out to you. These energy weapons require a lot of energy, and trying to provide a power supply for them is an impractical matter.
I'm a history freak. I've seen too many examples of wonder weapons that turned out to be just a big hype by the media. Until I actually see them deployed in the real world and in a practical sense, I remain a skeptic.
PS - Notice how old these articles are. They're from 2004 and 2005, and we still haven't heard any real development in these areas.
Note that since this is off topic, I will not be replying anymore. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. The day that they actually deploy these in real world situation you will see me with my mouth in my foot.
Good night.
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