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Brian
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Message 18 of 57 (70101)
11-30-2003 4:53 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Atapuercan Zusayan
11-30-2003 4:26 PM


LOL, you think that itty bitty gay knight is the best, did you see my devil child?
Brian

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Brian
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From: Scotland
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Message 22 of 57 (70222)
12-01-2003 5:33 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Rrhain
12-01-2003 2:49 AM


You do look a little like the guy 'Fred' that Rosanne's sister Jackie married on the TV show 'Rosanne', but your avatar is too tame to be the best.
Brian.

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Brian
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Message 25 of 57 (70390)
12-01-2003 8:33 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Rrhain
12-01-2003 6:18 PM


What is offensive about the word gay?
I think it is a delightful and proud acronym, these three letters speak volumes for equality.
None of my gay friends has a problem with it at all.
Brian.

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Brian
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Message 41 of 57 (70591)
12-02-2003 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Rrhain
12-02-2003 3:01 AM


Re: If Rrhain is straight, so am I
Hi Rrhain,
Excuse me?
I seem to recall an admonishment to AZ about "yid" and "nig."
"Gay"?
I see those words as offensive.
I do not see the word ‘Gay’ as being offensive, and gay people don’t either, apparently only you do.
I did not say that the avatar is not the best one ‘because is it a ‘Gay’ knight’, I said it was not the best because the devil child is obviously better.
Hence:
LOL, you think that itty bitty gay knight is the best, did you see my devil child?
If I had said something like, how can a ‘gay’ knight be the best, then you would have a case. As it is, you are talking utter nonsense.
Because calling someone "gay" as an insult is inappropriate.
You are correct, however, I did not say it as an insult, I was talking about AZ’s claim that his avatar is the best, I did not disqualify his claim because his knight is ‘gay, I disqualified it because the devil child is better. I described his avatar as an itty bitty gay knight.
Do you think AZ went running to his mummy crying about someone calling his avatar ‘gay’! Don’t be silly.
What is offensive about nigger/kike/wop/spic/beaner/wetback/faggot/dyke?
Perhaps the fact that people are offended by them! Show me a gay person who is offended by the word ‘gay’.
Oh, I don't know...something about the implication that there is something wrong with being gay.
The implication of course is entirely in your own mind and is not the intended implication of the post. If I wanted to use the word ‘gay’ in an offensive context then there would be no arguments about it, it would be pretty clear that I was using it in an offensive context.
Tell us, Brian, why did you bring it up?
I brought it up because the image is a stereotypical ‘gay’ image.
I have a friend who looks like the stereotypical ‘butch’ lesbian, I didn’t know for sure if she was a lesbian or not until one night we were chatting and she said’ you do know I am gay don’t you’, to which I replied, well if you weren’t gay you are giving out all the signals that you are! We both had a good laugh, we both had a good drink and she is a truly wonderful person, I speak to her every weekday morning and very much enjoy her company. BTW, she read your post and she thinks you are an arsehole, however, I did defend you and say that you are normally a very sensible and articulate poster and that I believe you have read something into this that simply isn’t there, I think most observers are suggesting the same.
Acronym?
Oh, do tell me what "gay" stands for. Last one I had heard was "Got AIDS Yet?"
You really do need to stop mixing with 15 year old kids if this is the type of garbage you are taking in.
Gay is an acronym for ‘Good As You’. Over the last 5 years I have told literally thousands of kids that this is what Gay stands for.
So please do not insult me by equating my understanding of the term with that of your juvenile acquaintances.
There is a difference between describing and insulting.
Yes I know, pity you don’t see the difference in my post because it wasn’t meant as an insult. I should know I posted it, If I posted it as an insult I would be apologising by now, but that was not the intention and I take exception to the accusation.
For the record:
AdminBrian to A_Christian from here:
Hi A_Christian,
I think we all know your stance on homosexuality so could you tone down the 'gay bashing' and try and be a bit more senstive with your choice of words? All of the things you say about homosexuality can be said in a less offensive way and, whether you like it or not, homosexuals are real people with real feelings, so your words may be hurting a lot of very sincere and decent people.
Does this sound like the opinion of a homophobe?
Surely you're not implying that the picture in the avatar has sex only with other pictures, are you?
I am implying that the image in the picture is of a gay person, what is offensive in that, do I mean it in a bad way, is it an insult?
That the picture is a scene of two people of the same sex being romantic?
Is ‘being romantic’ the only thing that gay people do?
Just what was the point of calling it "gay"?
Because, as I mentioned earlier, it resembles a gay image.
What makes you think I'm not gay?
Would you be offended if someone said you were gay? I have been asked many times if I am gay and I have never been offended by it, I couldn’t care less.
I did not reject the image because I see it as a gay image, I rejected it because the devil baby is superior.
Oh, I've been very careful about keeping my sexuality out of discussions because, after all, it is irrelevant.
Yes, it is totally irrelevant.
Whether or not I am gay has nothing to do with the validity of my arguments.
Yes, and whether you are gay or not doesn’t affect the fact that you are barking up the wrong tree here.
And it isn't to appeal to lesbians.
We know why it is, it appeals to guys that these women are lesbians, guys get turned on by it, and so by that reason my observation is perfectly valid.
Right...Brian wasn't insulting AZ.
It was only an insult if he is insulted by the fact that the devil baby is superior to his avatar. I don’t follow your logic, how could it be an insult to AZ if he has a picture of a lesbian as an avatar
No, AdminNosy, this has nothing to do with me being a mathematician.
It simply has to do with homophobia.
I think it has more to do with you being bored shitless arguing with a 15 year old child for weeks on end!
You can apologise for the accusation of homophobia whenever you have a spare minute, I am a forgiving guy and know you mean well, but you have totally misread the situation. I am man enough to admit when I am wrong; however, you are in the wrong here.
The difficulty seems to be that Brian doesn't seem to think denigrating gay people is problematic.
The difficulty is entirely in your imagination Rrhain, and I am getting pissed off with the homophobe accusations. I do not see that calling someone gay is offensive, it was a description of the image, it was not a reason for relegating the avatar to a lower status than the devil child.
I'm still waiting to find out what the point was in calling the avatar "gay." Brian claims it was an acronym. Really? What does it stand for?
I would have posted earlier but certain words on the school Internet filter system do not allow some pages to load on the school computers.
So now you know, I called it gay because it is a stereotypical male fantasy lesbian warrior, Gay is an acronym for ‘Good As You’, you know that I am not homophobic by my opinion given as adminBrian.
I think you should have held fire a little over the accusations, but I understand that if you were upset by my description you may have posted in haste.
I do not think that any person, gay or not, is any less of a person than any one else, we are all equal in my opinion.
I would not, under any circumstances claim that someone’s sexuality in any way makes them less important, less human, than any one else.
I happen to have great admiration for gay people and I totally respect their choice, to claim that I intentionally insulted gay people is simply incorrect.
Best Wishes.
Brian.

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