What does everyone think about Nutrional Supplements?

Pfatboy, if we were as compatible on the Bible as we were on the above, it'd be cool. Your list above is among what's on our own list. It's an excellent selection, imo, for anyone who wants good suppliment advice, so long as the product is from a reliable source. I know a good multiple supplinent has some minerals, but not enough of some, imo, especially magnesium. I'll talk about this later. I would also add some essential oils such as flax and borage oils to your fish oil.Btw, being a nutrition nut (as we are often referred to), how did you ever come up with the username, Phatboy??

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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

Often folks who take vitamins use them to counter unhealty eating habits. They may help some, but diet, exercise, et al is key to good health.There's another factor with colds. Toxic fumes inhaled like some aerosols, paints, fuels, exaust, et al can lower the resistance and bring on colds if he was exposed to any of these often. It's sometimes hard to work on an engine fuel system without breathing gasoline fumes and getting on the hands. It goes into the body via skin pores and in the lungs.....bad news for colds and other problems.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

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2) Antioxidants are necessary in todays polluted world.

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How does consuming antioxidants prevent harm from pollution?

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3) One can overuse Vitamin C. The body becomes resistant and large amounts are needed to maintain equilibrium. If suddenly stopped, a rebound deficiency will occur.

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I was under the impression that Vitamin C was water-soluable and so anything the body doesn't need gets peed out.

Any stress to the mucous membranes and lungs, like the fumes you mention, will lower one's resistance to the cold virus. So will not eating properly and not getting enough exercise and sleep.The very most important thing to do, however, to avoid getting a cold is to wash your hands frequently with hot, soapy water for the length of time it takes to sing the ABC's, not share eating or drinking utensils, and keep good air circulation in your home and business.You can be plenty run down, but if you kill the viruses on you, you won't get infected as easily.

Check this out: http://www.doctoryourself.com/levy.htmlThe subject of Vitamin C is controversial, but enough reports and studies have been done that elevate it above quack status.

But you didn't answer the question.If vitamin C is water soluable, then how can large doses have any effect to the body other than fulfilling it's requirement and then being expelled in the urine?BTW, that site you sent me to makes a lot of really great claims but references not a single peer-reviewed study to back up anything.Medical doctors are NOT scientists. They are often just as prone to wrong thinking, especially confirmation bias, as anyone else and they do not work with theory and experimenal design/methodology the way professional scientists do. Also, the book your page talks about is hardly the same caliber of evidence as something which has gone through the peer-review process.And come on, Phat, do you really think that somebody claiming that Vitamin C cures almost every disease under the sun is legit?If I want to find out the current scientific status of a particular new or strange-seeming medical treatment, I go to a great site called QuackwatchThis is a very well-referenced article on Vitamin C and the common cold. This article is about one of the MD's mentioned in rather glowing terms in the page you cited, Lendon Smith. My science-based skeptical site is not so impressed.

Hi schraf.I may be missing something here but this doesn't seem to make any sense. Salt is water soluble but you really don't want to take large doses of it - I'm sure there are many other examples that could be thought of.You seem to be implicitly assuming that any amount larger than the requirement will be inert in the body before it is peed out. Is there any basis for this ?

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Oops! Wrong Planet

my only complaint with nutritional suplements is that those stupid vitamins they make specifically for men are way too dense and the sediment left by them makes a particular body fluid taste like burning rubber. it makes life unpleasant.

Agreed.

I take a ginseng and royal jelly suppliment. It helps keep this oldie perked.

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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw

Schraff, I will agree that quackwatch has effectively and seemingly debunked the website that I showed you. What about Pauling, however? The guy was smart! He got a lot of his info from this source:
Management trainee till Nobelstiftelsen - NobelPrize.orgYou can't tell me that these people were mere snake oil salesmen.They had a different theory than was and is mainstream.

well, adults do not need Freudian pacifiers. You need to find better sources of nutrition as well as higher aspirations of reciprocity, IMHO.

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You seem to be implicitly assuming that any amount larger than the requirement will be inert in the body before it is peed out. Is there any basis for this ?

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Well, I didn't know, which is why I was asking Phatboy.I did a bit of a search this morning and found this website.I wonder if all of those sales people at GNC and other nutritional supplement retail stores know all of this information before they "prescribe" supplements to their customers?

Pauling was plenty smart, and exceedingly well-meaning but he was really wrong about megadoses of vitamin C.If you can show me some relavent reasearch to show that megadoses of vitamins can cure disease, or that megadoses of Viamin C can cure or prevent the common cold, then I will certainly reconsider.

Like mainline science, Pb, the mainline medical journals and expensive government studies/research are focused on conventional money driven practices than on alternative healthcare. In medicine, whatever practices eliminate the profits of the pharmaceuticals and practitioners are going to be opposed, pshawed and ridiculed. Yet many terminal patients that the meds can't help get help from alternative sources.Dr. Lorraine Day is a good example of this. In fact she was a big wig in a large California hospital when she devoloped terminal cancer with a huge breast tumor. She began studying alternative and totally cured herself via alternative methods. Today, in her 60's she looks like 50! We have the informative and amazing video of her experiences.

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The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buzsaw