Kuresu made some rather simple and valid points that have been ignored for quite long enough.
Kuresu writes:
I must say, you do a great job of blaming Adam Smith for a bunch of shit he's not responsible for.
The competition's been arond forever--ever since we've had tribes competing against one another.
nicotene is naturally found in tobaccoo, and was already being used in the 1600s--why do you think it was a cash crop (for Virginia) under the mercantilist system?
money--ever since we switched from the bargaining system, we've had money. I mean, even Hammurabi's code deals with debt and credit, and we know they had money from the this--"if you don't have the cash, you gotta pay with grain" (paraphrased)
there have always been have-nots--ever since we've had greed.
I admit, social darwinism was bad--but so is this current capitalism--robber barons and Exxon-mobil was not what Smith was advocating
industrialization--I don't know how that relates to capitalism. Care to elaborate?
mediocrity has been here for a long while, and is actually not advocated by capitalism. why? if you make a so-so product, and someone else makes a better quality product, which are you going to buy? If you say the mediocre one, it is only becuase you do not care for quality.
while you're blaming ghettoes on capitalism, be sure to blame Hitler too. Better yet, blame the ghettoes on the greedy robber barons who abused the capitalist system.
aren't slums the same thing as ghettoes?
You know, at least we get to retire at 65 and enjoy life afterwards--want to go back to a time when living to 65 was rare? Like in Smith's time?
We've always had jobs--ever since something needed to be done. the first civilization, Sumer, had jobs.
again, seeing as how you equate jobs with meaningless occupation, blame the damn sumerians.
slavery was well in existence before capitalism. Again, the sumerians had slaves. blame them for the idea.
I'm not sure which misleads the world more--communism, fanatic crackpots, idealists, or capitalistism?
On the point of the world wars--I defintely disagree. WWI was the result of a crazed ruler desparate to prove Europe of germany, and his own, might. WWII was the direct result of the Versailles Treaty--it's unfairness and the unwillingness to defend it.
The first we killed for oil was in WWI--without it the war would've been lost by britain and france before we stepped in.
Jingoism is a result of imperialism, see below
You want to tell me that Hammurabi, Alexander, the Romans, the Egyptians, the Hittites, and many other ancient and classical civilization's weren't in the least bit imperial, and wanted to expand their empire?
We've had borders since we first had city-states--again, blame the sumerians.
Nationalism is not the result of Capitalism--it is, in fact, one of the results of raison d'etat.
You know, I personally blame Osama for 9/11, but whatever.
Terrorism has been around for a long time--far longer than has capitalism.
I would blame your God for making our minds so primitive, not something that didn't actually create them. (in my case, I blame evolution for the screwed up body I've got)
Don't see what capitalism has to do with automobiles and pollution. care to elaborate?
Something tells me you don't mean to thank Smith for not living, as he did in fact live. If you blame him for the "false" live we all lead, its our choice to follow the "false" lives. I happen to think mine's real, but then, "I think not" (oops. do I disappear now)
suburbs are a direct result of the American dream, and we've had the american dream before most farmers were introduced to capitalism. It is, instead, a direct result of our greed.
I'm not sure what conformity and capitalism share, care to elaborate?
as to those glass ceilings--I like my sky lights
you know, it's a good thing there glass--we can break through them. Now, had you made them out of steel and other really strong materials, we'd be deep in trouble. Oh wait, good thing we've got capitalism--who knows what's on the other side, right? It could be an economic goldmine--and whoever gets there first wins. sorry, no ceilings, not where there's money to be made.
At least you do thank him for the one thing he is directly responsible for--capitalism.
What system? You mean we live in the matrix!? shit, we need neo, now. there's always been a system--bargaining, mercantilism, communism, capitalism, and then the governments. Might as well lay the blame at everybody's feet.
Point put simple--quit blaming the wrong guy. Or, actually do something about it if you think it's so bad.
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