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Author Topic:   Pre-flood physics?
Rrhain
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Message 12 of 79 (74523)
12-21-2003 5:19 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by johnfolton
12-21-2003 12:51 AM


whatever writes:
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Like you all probably heard about hunza water, coming from a glacier formed in the biblical deluge
There was no "biblical deluge."
Not only is there no physical evidence of a global flood, the mere concept is physically impossible.
There is only so much water on the earth...on the order of 10^8 cubic miles. However, to cover the earth with enough water to submerge Mt. Everest requires an additional 10^9 cubic miles.
Notice the dual problem: We need not only an order of magnitude more water than the earth currently has, we need it in addition to the water that is already here. You see, over 97% of the earth's water is in the ocean. That's what allows us to have dry land in the first place. If you were to take the water out of the ocean and put it on the dry land, it would immediately rush back to the oceans leaving dry land again.
You can demonstrate this for yourself with a simple experiment. Take a baking dish or pie plate. Say it happens to have a depth of 3 inches. Now find an object that is taller than that...say, a trophy that is 12 inches tall. Put the trophy in the dish and then fill the dish to the brim with water. Some of the trophy will be submerged, but some of it will stick out above the water.
Now, using only the water that is in the dish, try to completely submerge the trophy without knocking it over such that the trophy remains submerged when you stop doing whatever it is you're doing to cover it up.
You won't be able to do so. Whatever water you pour on the trophy will immediately run off and go back into the baking dish. Remember, you can only use the water in the dish...no additional water and no outside physical contraptions to corral the water.
There is no "water canopy." If all the water in the atmosphere we currently have were to condense and fall as rain, it would only cover the earth to an inch (and then immediately start evaporating back into the atmosphere). If you were to try to suspend 10^9 cubic miles of water in the atmosphere as water vapor, the pressure and temperature would have to be so high that all life would be cooked. Nothing could survive.
Since there was no global flood and since it is impossible for there to have been one, any speculation about what life was like "before the flood" is nothing but fantasy.
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Rrhain
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Rrhain
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From: San Diego, CA, USA
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Message 35 of 79 (74630)
12-22-2003 12:41 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by johnfolton
12-21-2003 9:26 AM


whatever responds to me...I think...he doesn't say:
quote:
The bible itself agrees with you that the waters of the ocean have been bound, or presently due to the topography after the flood, its impossible for the oceans to cover the earth, etc.
Not just "after." Before and during, too.
It is topologically impossible to flood the earth using only the water on the earth when one starts with the existence of dry land and essentially all the water below that level.
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