Hydroplates unchallenged young earth explains Tectonics shortcomings!

I thought Walts said the Pacific seamounts were not scraped off, I thought seamounts are formed from under basalt uprising, the Pacific Plates must not be moving, maybe the Hawaian Islands were formed because of fractures, unlike the galloping Atlantic Plates, probably explains all the volcanoes in the Pacific, why the seamounts are still there, interestingly their eroded tops, supporting the biblical flood, being over 1/2 mile below the wave base, etc...

Ned, I haven't really read Walts book, browse his site a bit, what evidence do you have that the Pacific Plate is moving, does Walt think the plate is moving, I'm just saying without knowing exactly what Walt thinks, is that if the seamounts are caused by basalt rising up from the inner earth, if the Pacific plates are moving, wouldn't they be scraped off, is there seamounts in the Atlantic Ocean, etc...P.S. I look forward to your response, why are the seamounts not scraped off the Pacific Oceans floor if the plates are moving, if you have proof that Walt says they are moving, or that tectonic plate theory believes so, please quote your sources, etc...The seamounts show they were once above the surface of the waters, either the oceans sank, the waters rose, or both, etc... Rachael Carson The Sea Around Us, was one of the first scientists to write about the pacific seamounts, etc...

If the basalt lavas, formed these seamounts, comes from below the ocean mantle, shouldn't its massive weight press these mountains into the inner earth, if the tectonic plates actually moved, why wouldn't they be scraped off, do you feel continental mountains have no foundations, not needing any mass beneath the mountain, etc...

JM, I actually agree with you, the plates crushed under california, the reason it hasn't slipped into the Pacific Ocean, its believed to be all broken up, supporting the hydroplate theory, it didn't seem to subduct, kind of interesting, etc...

Ned, I read your link, but he made an hypothesis, couldn't access those other links, suspect my spybots search and destroy not allowing me to bring the site up, etc... do you have proof that the plates are actually moving, etc...P.S. If you can show that Walt agrees the Pacific Plates move, or that Hawaii is actually moving, etc...

Ned, Thought you said you had proof by satellight interpolation or some such thing, etc...

Ned, I have no problem with California moving, do you have proof Hawaii is moving, etc...[This message has been edited by whatever, 02-05-2004]

JM, The site said that the velocity calculated based on Nuvel-1 may be 4.5% faster than those mesured by space geodetic methods, it sounds too much like a calculation, etc...P.S. I think I'm just going to wait for Ned to prove GPS actually proves Hawaii is moving, is Hawaii rooted, or floating, etc...

Ned, You said GPS would prove that Hawaii, is moving, that Walt agrees with you, that they are moving, JM agrees with you that the Pacific Plates are moving, but you have not proved that the Hawaii is moving in the same direction as JM suggests, by GPS, or proven Walt agrees with your movement. You said its a fact, now all I'm asking for is proof, etc...P.S. The question is are the seamounts rooted or not, Hawaii is a seamount that surfaced, if the Pacific plates are moving and the seamounts are rooted, their foundations would of been scraped off by the tectonic plates, breaking up these mountains, if the GPS shows they are moving(not rooted), it should confirm the tectonic plate theory that the pacific plates are moving in same direction, as Hawaii GPS movement, etc...

Ned, I thought even Walt believed the plates were floating, but that doesn't mean Hawaii is necessarily moving, the tectonic plate theory by your own words would be moving Hawaii, do you have GPS proof the Hawaian Islands are moving in the same direction as the tectonic plate theory dictates, etc...

Ned, If you can not confirm the Hawaiian Islands are moving in the same direction as the tectonic plates imply(not just shifting, etc...), GPS has been around for a long time, you should be able to confirm in what direction the islands are drifting, if they are drifting at all, etc...[This message has been edited by whatever, 02-06-2004]

Ned, You need to prove the Hawaiian Islands are still moving, your tectonic theory believes these plates are still moving, if you can not prove this, then Walts theory makes more sense, the plates are only floating, etc...

Ned, If you can not find where Walt believes the plates are not moving, then were probably in agreement they are floating, you do realize they are finding fractured rock and water in the super deep wells over 7 miles into the mantle, likely the reason crustal plates are able to move (one plate above another, think tectonics believe rock is moving against rock, but this is not what were finding in the super deep wells, there finding fractured rock and water, etc...P.S. In the Russian kola super deep Well there studying how water fluids affect crustal movements, this is science in action, putting two and two together and coming to the conclusion that water fluids in the inner earth would affect crustal plate movements, etc...Geophysics University of Bonn

Ned, You need to prove that Walt is wrong about water under the plates aiding in crustal transport, if there was no water under the plates, it would be rock pressing against rock, the friction would be too great, this is the basis of the hydroplate theory, etc...P.S. How does the tectonic plate say the plates are moving, doesn't the tectonic plate theory say the tectonic plate is floating on a more dense rock, like JohF implied, isn't rock thats a liquid under these great pressures a solid, how could two solids move laterally (they could press inward, or upward) but not laterally, water however is a mobile fluid, under pressure, this is why its found filling the voids in the super deep wells, proof in the natural that Walts hydroplate theory is literally correct (hydro=water), etc...

loudmouth, In fact I kind of agree that oil can flow down through the cracks, displacing some of the water, down under, etc...I bought some questionable stocks based off this, in southwest corner of the dead sea, where Sodom was torched by God, its the lowest spot on the planet, Ness energy, believes, like you, that there is oil flowing through faults in the earth, the big question, will they actually hit oil or water, will they even get the money to purchase the drilling rig that drilled the german super deep well, its a long shot, I'm poor, so just could only buy a few shares, etc...I just thought this might interest you, someone planning on drilling as deep as the German deep well, like you believing they will hit oil, and not water, etc...http://www.nessenergy.com/newsarticle.asp?ID=18Ness believes that Israel is "a place where science and the bible shake hands" and that Ness will achieve the vision of the location and recovery of an abundant source of oil and gas in Israel[This message has been edited by whatever, 02-06-2004]