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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
I was wondering if anyone here has been to see a holistic doctor (health care professional) or if they take herbs and homeopathic medicines, and what their experiences with them have been.
I just recently wen to see one, and my experience was one of great subjectivity, and I am not so sure I believe in it. Maybe the herbs and homeopathic stuff works, but the way I was tested sure seemed like BS to me. I have been having a problem with headaches, and sinus and ears over the last 2 months. It has been disabling, and I have missed a tremendous amount of work over it, not to mention, I would rather be dead than feel the way I do. Of course I've been to the regular doctors (5 doctors, and 8 visits) and had both cat scans of the brain and sinus. All to no avail. I've had like 7 different medicines prescribed to me, and the only one that gave me relief was predisone steroid, which probably just reduced the swelling I have in my head. *rant*All this is contributing to my feelings on the inadequacy's of doctors in general, and the way our health care system is set up. Twice in my life I've had to have operations to correct things, and both times, I had to suffer for 14 months, and 7 months before the finally found out what was really wrong. Total BS IMO. If I went over your house to fix your heater in the middle of winter, would you like to hear me say "in about 2 weeks we will perform a test on your system, and then go from there". Obviously heating is more important than my body, and health.*end rant* Edited by riVeRraT, : spelling Edited by Adminnemooseus, : I can't take it anymore - Change "Holoistic" to "Holistic" in topic title.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
If 5 HVAC doctors said the same thing, I'd be inclined to believe them - that no quick fix was possible. I wouldn't be calling in the guy who attaches magnets to the gas line to align the molecules. Well you sure missed that point.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
My father-in-law had a sinus cavity that wouldn't drain. I appreciate the help. but I don't think that is the problem, as I have had a catscan of the sinuses, and it revealed nothing. Also the brain too. This whole thing started with migraines, every 4 days, then every 2, then one long, what I thought to be a migraine, that lasted 4 weeks. My primary doctor gave up, and I went to see a neurologist, then two different ent's. I had a hearing test done, all to no avail. My symptoms are:first the headaches, which have partially subsided. Dizzyness, and loss of balance. nausea My sinuses feel raw eyes water ringing in ears super sensitivity to noise (cell phone sounds like a rock concert) It's like allergies, but times 100.It is disabilitating. The last week, I have been feeling better, but only slightly. All this crap has got me really depressed, and has probably contributed to my attitude lately.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
your body is a bit more complicated than a heater. First off,t hanks for the reply. I am well aware that my body is more complicated than a heater, that wasn't my point. My point is, if the technology exists to correct a problem, as it was in the past with me, then why does it take so long? When a heater is broken, I stay until it is fixed, why can't our medical system be the same way. There is absolutely no good reason why after feeling a lump in my throat, that it should take 7 months before it finally gets removed.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Depends on whether the heater in my home is as complicated as the human body. It is amazing how many of you have missed that point. No it doesn't. It depends on whether the means to fix it is available. I've spent 26 hours once to replace a boiler in a school, yet our health system, can take as long as they want with our bodies. I wonder if when the doctor gets sick, if he takes as long to get all the tests done, and find out whats going on. If there is no cure, or there is no tests, as it is with some diseases, then that is a different story.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Thanks nator, I am reading through those links.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
because some tests take a long time to run. there are other people who need care too. (you're clearly not dying. triage is a hierarchical system.) because you have to pay for the hours you spend in the hospital and i doubt you want to go inpatient for three weeks to nail down everything wrong with your head (no jokes, people. it's not the place.) Every test I've had done so far, can be completed in a day or two. There is no reason for the ENT to say "get a hearing test" and then have to go to another facility, and wait two weeks for that test to take place. Then you have to wait for another appointment for the ENT, add salt and repeat, until one year goes by, or my business gets shut down, because I can't work, and make money.. There is no excuse, plain and simple. Or medical system should be set up in a way, where you can go to one building, and have all the test done, in order, to accommodate process of elimination. My tumor in my neck took 6 tests. X-rays, CT's, MRI's, and one biopsy.This could have been accomplished in one day, not 7 months. You know what my family doctor told me? It was a swollen lymph node, and would heal in two weeks. When I came back to him, 2 weeks later, he said, it might take 6-8 wweeks. So I went home again. Then when I came back in two more weeks, and told him, I think you are wrong, shouldn't you send me to an ENT? He told me....and I quote...."I am never wrong". That was my last visit to that knuckle head. Then I went to the ENT on my own.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
maybe the problem is with your ears. you might have an inner ear infection. the irritation will enflame your eustacian which connects to your sinuses. and the inner ears are responsible for balance. When they look in my ears, they see nothing, and the hearing test was inconclusive. I was doing some research of my own, and vestibular migraine seems to match what I have, almost exactly, except that when I breath in through my nose, it's like being poked with an ice pick.
or maybe your kid put a bean in your ear and it's sprouting. Or maybe a spider crawled in there, or maybe I am sick of hearing BS (lol). I am going to quote you on this one, "I'm dying and I know it". Are there R/C planes in heaven? I miss flying already.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
You mean like the socialized medicine they have in Canada and most of Europe? I don't know how that works, but it doesn't sound like what I would like to see. I don't think socialized medicine is the same thing as having all the tools at your disposal. You are describing what Hillary wanted to do. Doesn't it make common sense to have all the tools at your disposal? If I came over to your house and said, well looks like your gonna need a leak test done, so in about two weeks I'll go by a leakdown tester. Or would you expect me to already own onne, because it is part of my trade? My neurologist had the right idea. The building I went to had many different doctors, and an MRI machine. He sent me right to them, the same day when needed. It was awesome.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Maybe a thought got in there somehow. Must have been one of yours.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
i don't think you generally see an inner ear infection. there's stuff in the way, like, your ear. i hope you figure it out though. Many of the conditions, that I could possibly have, are very hard to figure out, and for some, there is no test at all, or the test involves surgery. But for the mean time, we could try and rule everything else out. This whole thing of sending me for a hearing test, then back the doctor, then another test, then back to the doctor, is just stupid. It takes too long. Thanks
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
And you think putting that responsibility into the hands of our government is a good idea?
There would also be no choice of what doctor you are allowed to see.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
I wouldn't know where to start, or have the time to do it correctly.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
When I was refering to "no choice of doctor", I was refering to Hillary's first attempt at health care reform. Her plans incuded turning the entire US into an HMO.
I fully understand how health insurance companies work, being that I have 5 kids, and both me and my wife had our choice of coverage. With my current insurance, GHI, I can go to any doctor, and even if they don't accept it, which most do, I can get reimbursed for a percentage. While this whole idea about letting the government control our health care sounds great (because I wish to see everyone have coverage) I wonder just how efficiently they would run it, and just what would it cost us in our already too high tax dollars. Are the middle class going to be supporting the country with this? I am already taxed up the ass. And being that we have a government that likes to spend $800 for toilet seats, I am not confident that it is a good idea.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 444 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Tell me, do you think that the police force and the military should be privatized instead of remaining socialized? Nope, I was a civil service servant for 11 years, and witnessed first hand at the failure of privatization.
Why don't you educate yourself on what socialized medicine actually is and stop parroting back more right-wing soundbites? I haven't parroted anything nator, as I indicated in my first reply to you, I do not know what it is. I only remember that Hillary's ideas were unacceptable, and got run out extremely fast. I am correct in what I remember. Then also like I said, what you are telling me sounds good, because I would like to see everyone have health care coverage. We live in an era where it is available, why not take strides to make it available to everyone. I already work towards getting basic health care for orphans throughout the world, why wouldn't I want it here in the US?
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