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Author Topic:   Terrorist or Freedom Fighter?
jar
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Message 22 of 56 (162424)
11-22-2004 6:40 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by DarkStar
11-21-2004 12:01 AM


Re: Israel Is Here To Stay
You have a legitimate point but I do not recall any accounts of the American Patriots attacking English civilians in an attempt to terrorize the civilian population of England or of having a desire to drive the English people into the sea,
Well, if that is the extent of your knowledge, you sure don't know much about US history. Not only were British Citizens terrorized, their property was confiscated, they were hanged (check out the history of where the term Lynch came from), they were forced to flee their homes and land and their homes were burned.
In fact one of the things included in the Treaty of Paris was that the British Citizens who had been terrorized would be compensated. In some few cases that actually happened, (for example the heirs of George Calvert recieved a settlement as did the heirs of William Penn) but most recieved nothing.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days)
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From: Texas!!
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Message 24 of 56 (163507)
11-27-2004 3:48 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by DarkStar
11-27-2004 2:54 PM


Can't do ALL your work and thinking for you.
Try looking them up. It's not like we are talking about anything obscure.

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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 27 of 56 (163567)
11-27-2004 7:39 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by DarkStar
11-27-2004 7:28 PM


Re: Is the Jar full of hot air and simply needs to be vented? I think so!
I didn't think you would support your assertions. I was right. You are in violation of forum guidelines. Learn to follow forum guidelines like everyone else. You can now join froggy.
Forum Guidelines? I gave you the damn cite, the friggin Treaty of Paris. What more could you want? Are we expected to do everything for you?

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jar
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Message 31 of 56 (163574)
11-27-2004 8:42 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by AdminNosy
11-27-2004 8:29 PM


Re: Perhaps a quote?
Nosy, I said that the Treaty of Paris that ended the American Revolutionary War included provisions for compensating the British Citizens that were terrorized by the American Troops and whose property was confiscated. The whole damn treaty is only ten articles, about a page long. Even DarkStar should be capable of reading that much. But just in case he's as dense as he seems, the key part is IIRC, Article V.
Yup, took me less than a minute to Google it.
Article 5:
It is agreed that Congress shall earnestly recommend it to the legislatures of the respective states to provide for the restitution of all estates, rights, and properties, which have been confiscated belonging to real British subjects; and also of the estates, rights, and properties of persons resident in districts in the possession on his Majesty's arms and who have not borne arms against the said United States. And that persons of any other decription shall have free liberty to go to any part or parts of any of the thirteen United States and therein to remain twelve months unmolested in their endeavors to obtain the restitution of such of their estates, rights, and properties as may have been confiscated; and that Congress shall also earnestly recommend to the several states a reconsideration and revision of all acts or laws regarding the premises, so as to render the said laws or acts perfectly consistent not only with justice and equity but with that spirit of conciliation which on the return of the blessings of peace should universally prevail. And that Congress shall also earnestly recommend to the several states that the estates, rights, and properties, of such last mentioned persons shall be restored to them, they refunding to any persons who may be now in possession the bona fide price (where any has been given) which such persons may have paid on purchasing any of the said lands, rights, or properties since the confiscation.
And it is agreed that all persons who have any interest in confiscated lands, either by debts, marriage settlements, or otherwise, shall meet with no lawful impediment in the prosecution of their just rights.
Mayhaps that will help him. I quoted ALL of Article V and here is a link to the full text of the Treaty. Wouldn't want him to think I was quotemining.
Peace Treaty of Paris 1783
This message has been edited by jar, 11-27-2004 08:43 PM

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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 38 of 56 (164197)
11-30-2004 9:32 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by DarkStar
11-30-2004 9:13 PM


Re: It's Bin Time!
The fact that reparations and compensation were or were not implemented has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the terrorist acts happened. The issue was "whether or not terrorist acts and confiscations of land and property were carried out against British Citizens".
All the evidence I've seen shows such acts happened.
The time has come for you to be moved to the bin of opprobrious posters where you can enjoy the company of froggy, holmes, and others who are not worth the time it takes to spit.
I am honored to be even considered for inclusion in any group that contains luminaries such as Kermee and Holmes. Thank you sir.
Expect no further response from me.
Again, thank you sir.

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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 41 of 56 (164204)
11-30-2004 10:02 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by AdminNosy
11-30-2004 9:56 PM


Re: A problem somewhere
A Gentleman tries to never be unintentionally insulting.

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