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Author Topic:   Global Warming & the Flood
paisano
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Message 90 of 164 (228729)
08-02-2005 8:18 AM
Reply to: Message 86 by TheLiteralist
08-02-2005 8:06 AM


Re: collisions transfer kinetic energy btween colliding objects.
I do not propose anything entering the thermosphere at mach 60.
If you injected it into orbit, it has to re-enter at that velocity.
There is no way around that.
A water droplet entering the upper atmosphere at such a speed
would be instantly vaporized by air friction. If it then re-condenses later, it has to dump the heat of condensation into the atmosphere.
This is what I think you are missing. To boil water, you have to supply a certain amount of heat (the latent heat of vaporization).
Condensation is basically the same thing in reverse- for steam to condense to water, it must transfer heat to another medium (air, a solid).
I think this is all moot. Your model must begin by explaining what geologic process could inject a mass of water/steam equal to three times that of the oceans into low Earth orbit.
Unless you can explain this, the model is a non-starter, physically.
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paisano
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Message 132 of 164 (238216)
08-29-2005 8:15 AM
Reply to: Message 130 by TheLiteralist
08-29-2005 6:11 AM


Re: now the fountains of the deep
In the sense of a permanent alteration, yes, it's incorrect. The Earth is in a stable bound state orbit under a central force (Solar gravitation). For such an orbit, small perturbations lead to small oscillations about the equilibrium orbit - they don't change the orbital parameters that determine the shape of the orbit.
Recall that the Earth is constantly subject to small perturbations (relative to the Sun's gravity) due to the changing relative positions of other planets, but this doesn't cause permanent changes to the orbit. Any reactive effect of the sort you're appealing to would be orders of magnitude lower even than these.

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paisano
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Message 162 of 164 (238747)
08-30-2005 11:58 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by TheLiteralist
08-30-2005 11:27 PM


Re: now the fountains of the deep
I still believe in the Flood, the fountains of the deep, and the 40 days and nights of rain, of course
Well, as long as you recognize that this is strictly a religious belief, lacks any scientific evidence, and, therefore (as you've stated) should not be taught as science, I don't have a problem with you holding this view.
I'd also like to commend you for conducting this discussion with civility and class, and staying on topic. You've set a benchmark for YECs, IMO.

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