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Author Topic:   Interaction of Christianity and Islam Prior to the 20th Century
Damouse
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From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
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Message 35 of 55 (317250)
06-03-2006 3:44 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Faith
06-03-2006 2:49 PM


Re: Rise of Islam - From the Hijrah to the Death of Mohammed
Its not that you don't know, maybe its that you choose to ignore...
He is right in this point.
Over the course of history more heinous acts of violence and butchery have been committed in the name of religion then any other cause. Dont you go on about how pure christianity is. The put-down of the heresies (gnosticism, arianism ect. (sp?)), the spanish inquisition, the crusades, the list goes on.
All I've read so far. Skimmed a little farther but will have to come back to it. Noticed that you enjoy pretending that Muslim viciousness is typical of "religion." Oh well. What else is new.
What else is true?
Edited by Damouse, : Sp

-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.

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Damouse
Member (Idle past 4935 days)
Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 38 of 55 (317268)
06-03-2006 4:42 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Faith
06-03-2006 4:14 PM


Re: Rise of Islam - From the Hijrah to the Death of Mohammed
More butchery OF religious people has occurred than was ever done BY any. Besides that, most of the wars, the conquests, the raping and pillaging, have had no religious motivation whatever.
More butchery of religious ppl... Religious people (Pre-WWII)
Medival and dark-age justified their destruction by saying it was in the name of god. The crusades are the prime example for this. How many people have died in the name of god?
And speaking of being pure, their putting false teaching out of the church is in fact testimony to the attempt to keep Christian doctrine pure against every kind of falseness. What kind of muddleheaded nonsense are you putting out here?
The Church has been using whatever means neccesary to gain political and religious strength at every other turn since Constantine converted to keep the Empire together. The MURDER of the knights templar, the MURDER of Huss, and the persecution of paganism.
The put down of the heresies was utterly bloodless... gee can you define blood?
Get some facts before you pass on these false rumors
rofl! I should get some facts...
In fact, the SPANISH inquisition, the 3rd of four inquisitions, killed approx. 31 thousand people (-Will Durant). All of the atrocities to protect christianity from all of history easily add up to the wars that have occured in the past 200 years.

-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses

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Damouse
Member (Idle past 4935 days)
Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 40 of 55 (317292)
06-03-2006 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Faith
06-03-2006 5:28 PM


Re: Rise of Islam - From the Hijrah to the Death of Mohammed
it doesn't really matter what you think it was, or that you've dissafiliated yourself from them, but the fact is that the inquisitions were done, again, in the name of god. It was done by christians and in that sense was very christian.
EDIT: Went to site you listed. Interesting site, though it takes a while to find Rummel's credentials. The site, however, supports his theory of history that governments kill people, and the numbers sound VERY extreme. In the same way that you listed 3-5 thousand and i listed 31 thousand, im really iffy about these numbers. Looks like hes trying to change them for his own benefit.
Edited by Damouse, : re-read website

-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses

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Damouse
Member (Idle past 4935 days)
Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 43 of 55 (317300)
06-03-2006 5:57 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by Faith
06-03-2006 5:45 PM


Re: Rise of Islam - From the Hijrah to the Death of Mohammed
Incorrect grammar. It's "between you and me" - OBJECT is "me" not "I."
good point... really contributing to the argument there...

-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses

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Damouse
Member (Idle past 4935 days)
Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
Joined: 12-18-2005


Message 46 of 55 (317329)
06-03-2006 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by anglagard
06-03-2006 6:57 PM


Re: Quetzal Doing Just Fine
I throw my support behind anglagard!
so back on track...
What would have happened if the Muslim armies weren't halted by Charlemagne at Tours? Where would europe, or even North America, be now?

-I believe in God, I just call it Nature
-One man with an imaginary friend is insane. a Million men with an imaginary friend is a religion.
-People must often be reminded that the bible did not arrive as a fax from heaven; it was written by men.
-Religion is the opiate of the masses

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