Hovind's solitary considerations

A new entry was posted on Hovind's Blog on July 20, 2007: http://www.cseblogs.com. It relates a hypothetical conversation between Simon the Zealot and God, wherein at the end God advices Simon to quit the Zealots and submit to the Romans. One possible interpretation is that Hovind is now conceding a responsibility to pay taxes, but other interpretations are also possible.All but a few of the comments are supportive of Hovind. The ones that are not are fairly easy to pick out and are worth reading, as well as the responses. You have to click on one of the comments links before the comments are visible.--Percy

Why should you hope that someone who committed a serious criminal offence gets probation?I think she should have got a lot longer than the paltry year, or less.Brian.

A new entry was posted in Hovind's blog for August 2, 2007: A Day in the Prison Life of Kent. Interesting excerpts: I don't know if Judge Rogers has actually been reprimanded or not, so little of what Kent says has any truth behind it, but the transcripts are the responsibility of the court clerk, who has not responded to my email. I was actually instructed to call her by the lead federal attourney but chose to send email instead, but if a time comes when I find I actually have some spare time to pour over the transcripts I might call her.Interesting comments from the peanut gallery: BadBod is clearly very bad! FuManchu begs to differ: --Percy

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10:00 - 10:40 Relaxed in dorm reading and writing and drinking my three-times-a-week coffee ” and I know about that causing babies to be born naked!

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eh?

No equal time there, eh? So much for that Trojan horse.

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I've done everything the Bible says, even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff! -- Ned Flanders

Nothing new from Kent Hovind, but there's news at the blog that a stay has been granted for Jo Hovind pending appeal, so she remains free. I know many believe her culpable, but the way I see it is that but for her husband she wouldn't be involved in this mess: Praising God, Jo Hovind remains free!--Percy

is there any more info on the appeal? i'm quite curious on what the specific grounds are, if any. this should be an interesting case -- will they play it as "cult victim, not criminal?" for a while, it sounded like she was starting to see reality.i sorta feel really bad for her. this has got to be hard on their marriage.

Percy, I lost track of this thread being so busy this summer and on other matters when on line. Having now found time to open the thread and read, I want to express my appreciation for the compassion, wisdom and insight for your personal judgement of Jo Hovind.Mrs Hovind was somewhat in the same situation that my sister was with my tax evader brother in law before she divorced him. The difference is that my sister was not as Biblically strict as Mrs Hovind was on submission to the husband. I don't blame either Kent or Jo for the sentencing. He was doing what he believed was right Constitutionally and Biblically. Whether he was right or wrong, I'm not going to judge. I don't know enough about the legal aspects of this to say. I blame the powers which rendered the sentencing for not considering the extent to which Kent had authoritative influence on what Jo did. She was doing what both she and Kent believed, that the wife was to be submissive to the husband, even if she didn't agree to what he was telling her to do.When I think back of Hillary Clinton's cattlegate fiasco, in comparing the two, I see the bias that is prevalent in life today. Where is the justice? Hillary wins big under impossible odds in the cattlegate commodity market with no accountability for the crime committed and Jo gets prison for going to the bank with money someone else than herself allegedly gained unlawfully, believing in her heart that she was supposed to do so. I was in the commodity market for a number of years, involving thousands of my own $$, much of which I lost due to the power and control of the pitbulls in the commodity pits and involving millions of $$ in commidity futures and I full well know that what Hillary did could have easily have been proven to be fraudulent and to be impossible without breaking the law, yet she gets off scott free without so much as an investigation. Jo was prosecuted and (abe: originally sentenced to imprisonment) for one reason - that she was a Biblicist fundy and likely a right wing political conservative. Edited by Buzsaw, : update content of message

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

Does the name Kenneth Starr not ring a bell, Buz? $40,000,000 of our tax money?[/OT rantlet]

To respond beyond my on topic analogy would be to go off topic. Thus no comment. Edited by Buzsaw, : Fix gramatical mistake.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

When you can't win an unrelated dispute on the merits, slander the Clintons.God made Clintons for the Wrong American Right (WAR is always the answer) to righteously hate, a generous exception to the Commandment: meet the followers of Jesus "Osama" Christ.Christians have done the most hateful, despicable things, "believing in their hearts" that it is right to do so--an excuse that has always failed in a court of law.Is this a great Christian country or what?[/OT:rantlet-2]

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You're off topic. If you want to specify the merits of the analogy itself fine, but to digress into other topics is not.1. Is Percy's perception of Jo's predicament reasonable?
2. Did the liberal Hillary get better treatment than Jo in the courts and in the press for doing what was legally impossible?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

Ah, the sounds of Hovind bashing.I would like to see what law he broke. How it pertains to a redeemed citizen and why no one seems to notice. The federal income tax is unconstitutional as it is not a proportioned tax. Hovind followed the rules to the best of my inquiry into the situation. He isn't under any IRS tax code. Why everyone here thinks they know something about this injustice is striking.It seems that people here at the evc do not care about truth only their ego. While you people make stabs at a man much more noble his family is heartbroken. If your family was devasted by a catastrophe, i'm sure it would not help if people openly displayed their hatred for you. You hate him because he shakes your foundations.In a perhaps naive desire to make the fullness of the Plato's allegory a reality, I will contend with you.http://www.freedomclubusa.com/ucc_strawman

You're wrong.You did not use an analogy--you made unsupported charges against unrelated persons in an effort to obscure Jo Hovind's criminality.Jo Hovind was investigated, indicted, and found guilty as an accessory to tax fraud. Hillary Clinton was investigated (and investigated and investigated and investigated) by conservative prosecutors highly motivated to bring charges--and no criminal charges were filed.You are merely tossing out red herrings which are by definition off-topic.Moderator, heed thyself.

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The question really is, when it comes to sentencing for criminal activities "Should the fact that someone is a Biblical Christian be accepted as proof of diminished capacity?" No!I too hope that they place Jo Hovind on parole for a period of not less than her sentence and that she be given counseling to try to help her past the delusion that was her husbands perversion of Christianity.The problem though is we then need to decide if being a Biblical Christian is sufficient to be used as proof of "Diminished Capacity" for other cases?

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