Were The Prophets/Messiahs Jesus and Mohammed Inspired By The Same God?

Perhaps you should answer a few questions.1. Is Jesus God?2. Is Jesus the ultimate authority for a Christian?3. Did Jesus say, Jhn 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."4. Did Jesus say, Jhn 8:24 "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am [he], ye shall die in your sins."5. Does it make sense to say anyone knows the true God who is going to die in his sins [that is, unsaved] because he denies that Jesus is the Messiah?6. Does it make sense to say that anyone knows the true God who doesn't believe that Jesus is the only way to Him?

First, I will gladly answer BUT not one of the question relate to the topic of this thread. Once again, you are simply trying to change the subject. Start a thread on them and I'll be glad to discuss those issues.This thread is " Were The Prophets/Messiahs Jesus and Mohammed Inspired By The Same God? "To answer that issue the questions I asked are on topic.To determine if they were inspired by the same GOD it is necessary to determine how many GODs there are. If there can be multiple Gods then the three religions could be inspired by multiple Gods. If there is only one GOD then we need to go to the next step.So, "How many GODs are there?"Next, all three religions worship the God of Abraham and Isaac.Jesus says that GOD is the God of Abraham and Isaac. So either all three religions worship the same GOD OR you must say that Jesus lied.Which is it Faith?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

it seems to miss you that jews had a polytheistic root as well.

i really think you're stretching on that one, dear.

You have been answered and answered and answered and answered. The heirs of Abraham and Isaac are no longer the Jews, which you would know if you knew anything about the religion you claim to follow. Jesus is their proper heir and those who are in Him, and nobody else. The God of Abraham and Isaac is the God of Jesus Christ, not the God of the Jews. To become heirs they must come to recognize Christ and give themselves to Him. You have been shown over and over and over and over that the ONLY way to worship the God of Abraham and Isaac is through Jesus Christ. Therefore Judaism and Islam do NOT worship the God of Abraham and Isaac.Give it up, for heaven's sake jar. Stop derailing this thread with your incessant repetitions of the same old question that has been answered umpteen times.You are WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG.

That has nothing to do with the questions.The question is "How many Gods are there?"Did Jesus say that GOD is the God of Abraham and Isaac?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

YOu are completely wrong about this.If three people claim to know George but they all have completely different ideas about what George is really like, they do not all know George. Maybe none of them do, or maybe one does, but no more than one. The fact that there IS an actual George does not establish that those who claim to know him really do.So proving that there is only one God will prove NOTHING, but that is all you are trying to do. Ad nauseum!Allah is NOT Jehovah. That one has been established over and over and over. Disbelieve it if you want, but the God of Islam and the God of Islam {ABE: Correction, Christianity} are two different Gods, one of them an idol.The God of the Jews is also now an idol because He is not worshiped according to spirit and truth by the Jews. That can only be done through Jesus Christ.YOU CAN BELIEVE IN ISLAM OR IN JUDAISM OR IN CHRISTIANITY. BUT YOU CANNOT BELIEVE IN ALL THREE OR EVEN TWO OF THEM.This message has been edited by Faith, 12-28-2005 11:07 PM

Couldn't have said it better myself!Anyway I think we have established that for this questions there are an indeterminate number of gods, one of whom is Buz's, and that Buz can distinguish his from others, including Allah. We will find out in a bit if "Ibrahim" counts for anything.* Oh Buz, if you are dodging my question don't please. I need to make sure you agree that Capitoline Jove (of the lions) and clever Enki and El whose daughter-bride was Asherat-of-the-Sea are all the wrong god, not yours, a pagan one instead each of them.

But the question was whether they were inspired by the same God.

The subject is "Were The Prophets/Messiahs Jesus and Mohammed Inspired By The Same God?"Do you agree that is the topic?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

It seems to me that this discussion is simply about the criteria for denotation and reference. Jar is taking a 3rd person perspective, and you're taking a 1st person perspective.Jar seems to be saying that, regardless of the knowledge of those who were inspired, the same God was behind it. They could be wrong wrong wrong about their ideas of who / what that God is, but it was actually ideas / information / effects from the same God that inspired their ideas.You seem to be saying that the knowledge of those who were inspired matters. The inspiration must have come from themselves, or must have been masked so much that they interpreted the source of it incorrectly.If that is right... it seems strange to me, this 1st person way of denotation. Denotation is a linguistic analysis tool that only makes sense to me from a 3rd person, external observer viewpoint.Am I missing something? I think, probably yes. Do you know what it is?Ben

That might be entirely correct.Nevertheless, the question was whether the George that they claim to know is the same George. That they might be mistaken in believing they know him seems unrelated to whether they are all referring to the same George. No need to shout, especially when what you are shouting is irrelevant and perhaps not even on topic. The question has to do with whether it is the same George, not with whether they are mistaken in their claims to know him. That's news to me. I have seen evidence that what muslims claim to know about God conflicts with what Christians claim to know about God. But I have seen no evidence that they are not the same God. I have seen lots of assertions that they are not the same God, but those were empty assertion with no supporting cogent arguments that I could see.

What do you mean by "inspired by???" If three people are "inspired by" this guy George but it turns out they all have wrong ideas about him, how are they inspired by him?All you mean and all jar means is that they THINK they know/ worship / follow/ are inspired by/ the one true God.THINKING they know, worship, follow, are inspired by the one true God is NOT the same thing as knowing, worshiping, following and being inspired by the one true God.And this is a weird idea anyway, since Muslims have been known to ridicule Jehovah and God the Son. THEY don't even think they are worshiping teh same God, or inspired by the same God, so why is everybody HERE insisting they are?This message has been edited by Faith, 12-28-2005 11:53 PM

That's nonsense. God is invisible Spirit. They are NOT following the same God if He is not known as He really is. They are following a figment of their own imaginations which is idolatry. The Muslims don't recognize Jehovah, they even blaspheme that name. To them God is Allah, not Jehovah, and they don't acknowledge Jehovah at all or use that name or even an Arab equivalent of that name. Why this desire to insist they are worshiping the same God as the Jews and Christians when they don't even say they do? Oh well. I give up. Obviously it's a lost cause.

what if george suffers from DID? no seriously.you are discussing a different point from the rest of us. we are suggesting that just because buddy met george when george was with his cute and snuggly daughter and alana met george when he was beating someone up and skippy met geaorge when george was at the brain bowl and they all thus have disparate ideas of who george is does not in fact mean that did not all meet heorge and that george is only one person and not three (unless you're a christian...).you're belaboring the point that they don't all have the same understanding of who george is. thank you for pointing out the patently obvious.(emphasis on boring)This message has been edited by brennakimi, 12-29-2005 12:09 AM

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